2210/2305 Rear PTO broke.

[JBarnes6767]

Unfortunately I found this posting and many like it all over the web on how the John Deere 2210 and 2305 has had catastrophic rear PTO failures and problems. The reason I am here and writing this is to join the increasing number of dissatisfied consumers of this tractor. Same situation as listed here, tilling and hit rock, slip clutch did not disengage for one of many reasons (load not significant enough, froze up, etc...) rear PTO housing completely destroyed. Took immediately to local Koenig John Deere dealer where purchased 3 years prior, only to find out 2 days later, they have seen this exact problem before and my bill is over $6000. $3300 of which is just parts. And wait, it gets worse. Service manager at this dealership tells me this is a known problem and JD has since "beefed up" this transmission housing to prevent this problem. I was in shock! I took my broke 2305 back home to evaluate it myself because i couldnt believe they were correct. After 45 minutes of removing parts to get into the rear transmission, my nightmare came true. The thin, badly engineered cast aluminum housing gave way. How JD ever expected the already brittle cast aluminum metal(only 1/8-1/4" thick on outer wall) to withstand any torque at 540 RPM under a load is insane. And the kicker of all this is, their redesign of this is the only parts offered, so the remaining pieces i could have salvaged that were not destroyed are trash, and i have to completely replace ever part in the rear housing on my dime. This tractor is warrantied for 36 months on the drivetrain or 2000 hours. Of course my tractor is 6 months out of warranty and has less than 300 hours of total run time, of which only a few hours of use on the rear PTO. A supervisor from JD is supposedly going to get back with me in the next 48 hours to discuss, but my hopes are dwendling of getting them to help I will keep you posted as to how they handle this situation. If it turns out to be negative support from John Deere in helping owners of the 2210 and 2305 to repair their machines, i would like to know if any other members on here are interested in joining my lead in a class action lawsuit against them. Thanks

 

[JBarnes6767]

Supervisor from John Deere called me back today. She first said that "With your tractor being 2 years out of warranty and with 600 hours on it, we can not offer you any assistance." I then had to inform her that both of those statements were false. My tractor has 200 something hours and is only 6 months out of the drive-train warranty. She had already made up her mind and insisted that there was nothing John Deere would do. Is this the type of service and quality that most John Deere consumers are subjected to? I am working my way up the ladder trying to get some assistance on this matter. Then my next call will be to a class action attorney. It is a real shame it has had to come to this.

 

[ddivinia]

Supervisor from John Deere called me back today. She first said that "With your tractor being 2 years out of warranty and with 600 hours on it, we can not offer you any assistance." I then had to inform her that both of those statements were false. My tractor has 200 something hours and is only 6 months out of the drive-train warranty. She had already made up her mind and insisted that there was nothing John Deere would do. Is this the type of service and quality that most John Deere consumers are subjected to? I am working my way up the ladder trying to get some assistance on this matter. Then my next call will be to a class action attorney. It is a real shame it has had to come to this.

Sorry about your headache.

I would ask for it in writing. Then you can respond up the chain that the hours and time out of warranty is incorrect. If no satisfaction then you move forward on other remedies.

I owned a 2210. It could barely spin a LX-4 - I got rid of it.

D.

 

[dieselfreak]

I really hope Mother Deere give you some help on this one, like the entire repair. If not, let them know your intentions to spread the word, and track dwn all owners with the same problems

df.

Supervisor from John Deere called me back today. She first said that "With your tractor being 2 years out of warranty and with 600 hours on it, we can not offer you any assistance." I then had to inform her that both of those statements were false. My tractor has 200 something hours and is only 6 months out of the drive-train warranty. She had already made up her mind and insisted that there was nothing John Deere would do. Is this the type of service and quality that most John Deere consumers are subjected to? I am working my way up the ladder trying to get some assistance on this matter. Then my next call will be to a class action attorney. It is a real shame it has had to come to this.

 

[kebo]

Does anyone know if the 2320 has the same design flaw(s)?? I don't own one, but a friend has one he bought new.

 

[Moore7681]

Yes I would like to know if this problem is found in the 2320 too I just bought mine and was wondering I only have about twenty hours on it now but would like heads up if this problem bleeds over to the 2320

 

[djsk74]

Supervisor from John Deere called me back today. She first said that "With your tractor being 2 years out of warranty and with 600 hours on it, we can not offer you any assistance." I then had to inform her that both of those statements were false. My tractor has 200 something hours and is only 6 months out of the drive-train warranty. She had already made up her mind and insisted that there was nothing John Deere would do. Is this the type of service and quality that most John Deere consumers are subjected to? I am working my way up the ladder trying to get some assistance on this matter. Then my next call will be to a class action attorney. It is a real shame it has had to come to this.

I'm going through this exact issue, for the second time. This happened to me less than a year ago when the unit was still under warranty and it was covered. Less than a year later and another catastrophic PTO failure. Estimate is $2500 (parts and labor) to start and it will be 2-3 weeks to get the parts in.

Now the fighting begins. Not sure I have a hope with the tractor now officially out of warranty, but to have the same failure less than a year after the first time it blew up is ridiculous and something should be done.

 

[ddivinia]

I'm going through this exact issue, for the second time. This happened to me less than a year ago when the unit was still under warranty and it was covered. Less than a year later and another catastrophic PTO failure. Estimate is $2500 (parts and labor) to start and it will be 2-3 weeks to get the parts in.

Now the fighting begins. Not sure I have a hope with the tractor now officially out of warranty, but to have the same failure less than a year after the first time it blew up is ridiculous and something should be done.

What kind of PTO work do you do with the tractor?

D.

 

[djsk74]

What kind of PTO work do you do with the tractor?

D.

We use a 48" tiller and a 60" buhler mower. Both times the issue has happened when using the tiller.

 

[ddivinia]

Interesting - it might be good to do a survey of what people were doing when they broke. Maybe tillers are hard on them.

D.