Everlast welders, anybody own one?

[gumshu]

Doesn't Longevity still over the first of the month discount? If so that is a really good deal.

I just got a private msg from Longevity. They offer our members a 15% discount. Looks like I'm sold on the SW 250. 15% off of their $495 price brings it to $420 bucks plus shipping which should bring it to around $450 delivered.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Ironnut,
I am not sure if your date is reflecting correctly, but the FIRST post was in 2010, and the last one in the sticky, just a few days ago. We post when we have something to update or announce, not just for banter. I comment almost daily here though in other threads. We ARE and HAVE been active contributors and supporters of this forum, for a while now. Please let us know how we can help you.

Gumshu,
IF you want the 300 we can make it happen. Forget about amazon, because you don't get a discount there for tbn. But you're going to need to double the size of that 30 amp breaker you were talking about yesterday. You'll need to go to that heavier gauge then. Same as with the 250stickweld from our competitor...I can promise you the 300 won't disappoint against anyone's machine...our competitor here included.

 

[gumshu]

Ironnut,
I am not sure if your date is reflecting correctly, but the FIRST post was in 2010, and the last one in the sticky, just a few days ago. We post when we have something to update or announce, not just for banter. I comment almost daily here though in other threads. We ARE and HAVE been active contributors and supporters of this forum, for a while now. Please let us know how we can help you.

Gumshu,
IF you want the 300 we can make it happen. Forget about amazon, because you don't get a discount there for tbn. But you're going to need to double the size of that 30 amp breaker you were talking about yesterday. You'll need to go to that heavier gauge then. Same as with the 250stickweld from our competitor...I can promise you the 300 won't disappoint against anyone's machine...our competitor here included.

Hi Mark... lots to think about. I was kind of decided on the PA 200 until I saw reviews and the price of the SW 250. I still haven't purchased. Please PM me on the PA 300. Thanks

 

[BlacknTan]

They are still active on this site, Mark post's quite regularly. I have a PA160 and like it very much.. You will get a lot of comments by asking is the Everlast product any good. There are those of us that own them and like them.. then there are those who hate them. Of course they don't own them, or have never welded with them. They hate them because of the country of origin, and they believe the importer is doing unfair business practices. They hate them because they believe that they are helping drive American brands down the tubes. They hate them because they are not Blue or Red. For some joyful reading just post your question in google. and go to all the welding forums..you will get an earful. To the best of my knowledge they are a good product.. I sure am happy with mine, and many user's on here that own and use them are happy.. There have been several shipped that come broken, in transit, As far as I know and from what I can read they have been replaced. They are much cheaper than Blue or Red, and they are made in China. They seem to weld beautifully, and they along with anything made in China is hated, and especially so in the welding community. If you buy one and say you like it you will be hated too. So for safety's sake you should stick with Red or Blue. You have opened a can of worms, let the comments begin.

James K0UA

There is a bit more to the issue than that. Any company can send out a bad product from time to time, the issue is how that company deals with it.. i.e. customer service. This thread appeared on a welding forum. It was NOT in one of the sponsored forums, or it would have been promptly deleted...

Just an FYI for welding equipment buyers..

EVERLAST PowerPro 256; rolled the dice took a chance nothing but issues with no help - WeldingWeb™ - Welding forum for pros and enthusiasts

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

As usual there are two sides of the story. The customer told his story the way he wanted to tell it. We offer a 30 day satisfaction policy at the time of purchase. If there is a problem with an unit the customer can take advantage of it under our guidelines. This customer chose not do it that way. But in general WW has lost a lot of credibility over the last few years, especially since they have allowed certain "bullies" to run rampant and dog pile on new members. They ban and delete people, even with good experience for the slightest infraction, then allow others to have free reign when it serves their purpose. There are a number of "good" posts that have been made from genuine customers that were immediately deleted when they were in the open part of the forum. The only posts you will find there are the negative ones. Many, many more posts have been deleted from completely satisfied customers in the open forum. And no we don't just delete a negative post. We do delete the sideline comments though from time to time. But here we don't have any editing powers. Been on here two years and sold many many units to customers here. It's a large enough sample (100's?) to know if it was a routine thing that happened or not. People would let you know. Won't say everyone has perfect product experience. But most do. We do try our best to work with any customer with a valid problem.

 

[BlacknTan]

I don't know that all sections of WeldingWeb have lost their credibility, but the sponsored forums certainly have none. I have not seen people deleted, or any of the other behavior over there as you suggest. MillerWelds has their own forum, and a few Everlast "customers" (shills) showed up over there for no other purpose than to create mayhem. I wonder if you or your company know anything about that behavior? You say you work with customers who have a valid problem, which begs a few questions.. Who determines the "validity" of a problem? And, are some problems invalid, and what's the difference?
In any case, I've softened my position on imports a bit. Perhaps some folks cannot afford the name brand stuff, even though I consider a quality tool an investment rather than an expense, but I recognize that not everyone thinks as I do. I also believe that the Chinese CAN produce a quality product if forced to by the entity contracting with them. But, this does not include an importer merely adding their own name to a Chinese machine. That said, there are pretty decent imported machines out there... Thermal Arc comes to mind. A nice machine at an attractive price, but again, I don't believe that Thermadyne is just applying their name to that machine.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

The problem is as with most of these posts, is to assume things that aren't known first hand. I don't delete threads or posts unless they are off topic to getting things resolved with a customer. What is the deleted is the off hand comments inflamatory comments just as can be plainly seen in the link you posted. Shills? Not since I have been here since early 2009. No one is paid for their posts or comments. I suppose these guys here in this thread are as well? We ask customers to tell people if they like there welders that is all...and they are free to tell them if they don't as well.

As far as a valid problem, as is posted in our warranty section, we establish a problem with the customer through technical support, if the customer feels there is one. At one time we were getting high % of returns that had nothing wrong with them for repair. A lot were "panic" returns thanks to the lots of people trying to "scare" them into thinking something was wrong. IN any case the first course of action was to blame the unit. (which I don't mean to say there wasn't ever anything wrong). We had to establish a course of action through on the phone diagnosis before an RA is issued for the customer if he feels something is wrong. It has cut down in a huge way in customer complaints and warranty load. Many calls for problems are easily resolved over the phone.

fyi, some of our product comes from the same factories TA uses to "brand" their name on a product. We were importing a product in before they brought it over btw. They are using stock product from the factory catalog.

This past year during, before and after our manufacturing runs we have been with "boots on the ground" in our factory with product development, manufacturing quality control, and testing. Our physical presence in the factory has exceeded 4 months of time last year, if I remember right. This year it may push more. But with 600-800 units per month in the US alone (or more at seasonal times), along with Canada, Australia, Europe and S. American Everlast partners it is going to grow. We have heavy and continual investment and time in our "contracted" factories to produce a product. It hasn't been without bumps or errors, but no company can claim that either.

 

[digger Bob]

Dang, I just bought a migweld 140 from them and didn't see a thing about any discount!
What kind of show are they running over there?
I seems to me they would at least post some of the discount somewhere?
WTH?
I'll remeber that in the future...I'll have to get the discount for this purchase An\ND the next one just to be thier customer!

Keep smilin'!

 

[Shield Arc]

MillerWelds has their own forum, and a few Everlast "customers" (shills) showed up over there for no other purpose than to create mayhem. I wonder if you or your company know anything about that behavior?

I've helped Mark make a few sales. The cheap sum beach won't even give me a freaking ball cap!:laughing:

Only experience I have with Everlast machines is my PA-200. I can honestly say it is one of the nicest SMAW machines I've ever used! If you know anything about welding machines, just look at my signature, I have some of the best welding machines ever made in the USA! Personally I think I'm qualified to say when a machine is worth it's salt or not. Your opinion may differ!

 

[k0ua]

I've helped Mark make a few sales. The cheap sum beach won't even give me a freaking ball cap!:laughing:

Only experience I have with Everlast machines is my PA-200. I can honestly say it is one of the nicest SMAW machines I've ever used! If you know anything about welding machines, just look at my signature, I have some of the best welding machines ever made in the USA! Personally I think I'm qualified to say when a machine is worth it's salt or not. Your opinion may differ!

I have also convinced a few people to get an Everlast, and I am not a shill either. I haven't gotten a thing from Everlast, or anyone else for recommending their products. My little green box has welded perfectly both stick and scratch start TIG for 2 years now, without a hiccup, Sure I don't weld every day, and I have NO credentials in the welding field at all. I am just a hobbyist and have to fix things occasionally. For me a $269 welder was a bargain if if broke in 2 pieces right now. I have gotten my moneys worth, But it welds and welds and welds. Worked right out the the box. I am not saying their welders are all going to do that, for all I know maybe half of them are broken when the owners get them. That thread on Welding Web did not paint a very pretty picture. All I can talk about is my welder and my experience. And so far it has been a very good one..

James K0UA

 

[BlacknTan]

I've got ball caps for almost all the equipment, toys and tools I own, and never wore ANY of them... Well, except maybe Perazzi that I used to wear from time to time. I make a poor rolling advertisement! LOL

 

[ironnut]

Ironnut,
I am not sure if your date is reflecting correctly, but the FIRST post was in 2010, and the last one in the sticky, just a few days ago. We post when we have something to update or announce, not just for banter. I comment almost daily here though in other threads. We ARE and HAVE been active contributors and supporters of this forum, for a while now. Please let us know how we can help you.

Gumshu,
IF you want the 300 we can make it happen. Forget about amazon, because you don't get a discount there for tbn. But you're going to need to double the size of that 30 amp breaker you were talking about yesterday. You'll need to go to that heavier gauge then. Same as with the 250stickweld from our competitor...I can promise you the 300 won't disappoint against anyone's machine...our competitor here included.

Mark,

Well I guess I screwed up. I used Amazon last Saturday to purchase the PowerTig 250ex. Supposedly it is to ship today as we have a UPS tracking number.

gordon

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Every customer would get a ball cap if I had any.

 

[gumshu]

Mark,

Well I guess I screwed up. I used Amazon last Saturday to purchase the PowerTig 250ex. Supposedly it is to ship today as we have a UPS tracking number.

gordon

Hey Gordon, you can always cancel that order with Amazon (like I've done before) and place it through Mark. Mark had my machine on the way as soon as I hung up the phone... with an email confirmation and ups tracking number. Like I said, he's "Johny on the spot." You can't beat a direct sale.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Honestly, I have dropped the ball once in a while...but I do try to give the best service I can personally. Had a guy call me I sold one from 2010 yesterday afternoon.

 

[ironnut]

Re: Everlast welders, anybody own one? I do now.

Some would consider this a dead thread, I suggest that it was just aestivating through the long hot summer.

I bought an Everlast 250ex a couple months ago. It works as advertised. More welding machine than the welder using it. The Everlast 250ex is an inverter welder. Inverter welders definitely have a different output than transformer machines. I think different in this case is better. The Everlast machine replaces/augments my Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC machine. I think my 6010 welding is better with the Everlast than it was with the Thunderbolt, though, even with the ARC force adjustment turned to max I still experience loss of the arc (but restarting is fairly easy). DC tig works well and I can make some nice looking welds in steel. AC tig on Aluminum is not consistent though not the fault of the welding machine. Sometimes I can make a "stack of dimes" other times, chicken scratching. I am not a welding professional, though I have used a number of machines over the years (Miller, Lincoln, Linde, P&H, Forney, home grown). Prior to adding the Everlast, I had the Miller Thunderbolt and a Lincoln SP-180T mig welder. I nearly bought the Hobart version of the Miller Diversion machine (~$1600). The 250ex was ~$1600 for a 250 amp machine and a lot of control knobs plus stick welding capability while the Miller Diversion is ~180 amp and a very simple set of controls, but no stick welding.

I searched the Internet and read through some of the "horror" stories of this brand vs another brand. The video on welding TipsAndTricks.com where Jody demonstrates how to set up the Everlast 250ex was a deciding factor for my purchase. You can access the videos via the Everlast web site Welding Tips & Tricks Reviews the Everlast 250 EX . I would not recommend trying to purchase the Everlast 250ext model as it has been a source of a few horror stories. To Everlast's credit the thread is available for all to read (under TIG welding, ***250EXT***). Assuming that you intend to also do stick welding, make sure that the welding machine you purchase has the arc force control. It is pretty much required on an inverter machine if you intend to run 6010. Also make sure your auto darkening helmet is rated for TIG welding. Not all auto darkening helmets work well when doing DC TIG. Apparently the sensors in the welding helmet are dependent on the rate change or lack of rate change in the light intensity to trigger and hold darkened and un-darkened modes respectively. Inverter machines have very stable DC TIG arcs which can fool some helmets into reverting to the un-darkened mode.

Aside from a few niggling issues, i.e. the supplied stick welding leads could stand be a few feet longer, and some confusion as to how to connect the 220volt single phase power, I am satisfied with my purchase. As to power input requirements Everlast recommends a 50amp 220 single phase circuit. The 250ex can also be connected to a 3 phase source, which was part of the confusion. One of things touted for an Inverter based welder is higher efficiency. This appears to be true as I have been running on a 30 amp 220 single phase circuit. Yesterday I burnt up a dozen 1/8th inch 6010 rods fixing the brush cutter hitch. I was running at a 100 welding amps pretty much continuously. No breaker tripping.

As always your mileage may vary. Good luck to any in their search for an affordable welding machine.

gordon

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Re: Everlast welders, anybody own one? I do now.

A few notes...The EX isn't designed specifically for 6010, so if you are welding with it, good, but we don't promote it to weld 6010 or promise that it will anywhere I can think of in our literature. Arc force control doesn't make one weld 6010...Higher voltage output does. It'll run 6011 fine.

The confusion of wiring the welder shouldn't be anymore than any dual phase welder as we use the standard wire colors, and it is very plainly described in the manual available for all to see online.

The 250EXT has had an issue with starting, but there are only a limited number of machines out there, and we are not selling more until the issue is resolved. However, the 210EXT is a totally different animal, and have had great success already with them.

 

[Shield Arc]

Re: Everlast welders, anybody own one? I do now.

I think my 6010 welding is better with the Everlast than it was with the Thunderbolt, though, even with the ARC force adjustment turned to max I still experience loss of the arc (but restarting is fairly easy).

I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but what I have found with my Lincoln V350-Pro is turn the arc force to 0.0 when welding with 6010. This gives me the stack of dimes look with out even trying. For open root pipe welding, and vertical up with 7018 I run the arc force at +9.5.

Here is a 6010 weld I made when I first got my Everlast PA-200.

 

[gwdixon]

Re: Everlast welders, anybody own one? I do now.

I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but what I have found with my Lincoln V350-Pro is turn the arc force to 0.0 when welding with 6010. This gives me the stack of dimes look with out even trying. For open root pipe welding, and vertical up with 7018 I run the arc force at +9.5.

Here is a 6010 weld I made when I first got my Everlast PA-200.

:laughing::laughing::laughing:......"No expert" - right.....:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

 

[Shield Arc]

Re: Everlast welders, anybody own one? I do now.

I'm not! But I generally can stick things together.:yes: