FEL/ Hooks

[JB4310]

JRP.

Except those nifty chain storage boxes and the rope comment I don't agree with most of this post. In a friendly way, not to be to harsh, I don't think there's a big safety issue but...

Lets start with the position of the hooks, first of all it's been established that outside of the lift cylinders is not the best choice, next is the angle you mounted them, defeating a good portion of the welded attachment area. I don't like it and I don't like 1/4 inch chain either.

The position of hooks on top of any bucket, not just yours, brings up another point I took in consideration when I made my "Bucket Buddy" (should trade mark that ) was that with top horizontal mount like most people do, in order to have hook vertical to facilitate grabbing and holding chain, you must roll the bucket forward to almost a full dumping position. which is the weakest point in the "geometry" of the loaders capacity, causing both more stress on the loader and lose of lifting capability.

Sure you can roll the bucket back once the tension is on the chain, but now you're fully engaging the cutting edge and chain. Probably not a big deal but still boogering things up a bit.

With mine, hook is in vertical position with bucket level, though there can still be some contact of chain with edge, having the bucket already rolled back that extra 90 degrees provides more lift from top of bucket instead outward on cutting edge.

I'm not a great debater, but I'll try

JB.

 

[The Haymaker]

You exert forces for which the bucket was never designed, for which the tractor arms were never designed

So what happens when you're digging dirt and there's a root/ rock that's not centered on the bucket?

 

[The Haymaker]

You could try for some real customization and make it into an extenda-cab

It's gonna take some impressive hydraulic work to make it bounce like this!

 

[JRP]

JB4310,

You are correct about much of what you said.

The post is intended to share ideas of what has worked well and to help newbees with different thoughts to consider.

"I think slip type hooks are poor, as you must then use the chain grab hooks, and gravity tries to unhook them. Skip the slip hooks idea. I'll debate this with anyone." The slip hooks is what I'm willing to debate.

The rest is my opinion and what has worked well for me. I lift heavy things with chain on both outer hooks, so little risk of tipping over sideways or twisting the massive LA1162 frame. For very heavy things I also have two hooks on the loader QA frame, so I remove the bucket to reduce load by the bucket weight and of course use both hooks.

No dents on the grade 70 chain yet.

 

[JRP]

Haymaker,

I enjoyed the video clip. Thanks

 

[dcyrilc]

JB4310,

You are correct about much of what you said.

The post is intended to share ideas of what has worked well and to help newbees with different thoughts to consider.

"I think slip type hooks are poor, as you must then use the chain grab hooks, and gravity tries to unhook them. Skip the slip hooks idea. I'll debate this with anyone." The slip hooks is what I'm willing to debate.

The rest is my opinion and what has worked well for me. I lift heavy things with chain on both outer hooks, so little risk of tipping over sideways or twisting the massive LA1162 frame. For very heavy things I also have two hooks on the loader QA frame, so I remove the bucket to reduce load by the bucket weight and of course use both hooks.

No dents on the grade 70 chain yet.

I disagree about slip hooks, but (and here's the reason) I don't use chain on the slip hook. I also use nylon slings for lifting some objects, and it is difficult to use a grab hook with an 2" or 3" nylon sling. With chain, I always use grab hooks.

 

[JB4310]

JB4310,
For very heavy things I also have two hooks on the loader QA frame, so I remove the bucket to reduce load by the bucket weight and of course use both hooks.

I like that idea, definitely the highest capacity from that point

I do use a slip type hook in the receiver hitch, mostly for sling but sometimes for chain. Just have to loop and grab the chain like mentioned. You do have to be careful that they don't come undone when slack, or you can use a locking hook, I picked up a couple from AW Direct, which is just in the next town over The locking hooks are pretty cool, especially if you have to put a few chains together for a long reach.

BA Grade 70 Grab Hook with Latch w/ 6,600 lb. WLL - 3/8 in. - Mfg# 11-38G7GHL

JB.

 

[dcyrilc]

I like that idea, definitely the highest capacity from that point

I do use a slip type hook in the receiver hitch, mostly for sling but sometimes for chain. Just have to loop and grab the chain like mentioned. You do have to be careful that they don't come undone when slack, or you can use a locking hook, I picked up a couple from AW Direct, which is just in the next town over The locking hooks are pretty cool, especially if you have to put a few chains together for a long reach.

BA Grade 70 Grab Hook with Latch w/ 6,600 lb. WLL - 3/8 in. - Mfg# 11-38G7GHL

JB.

Interesting...I've never seen the locking grab hook before. I might have to get one just to try it out.

 

[mjncad]

Holy crap Paul! I'll bet that was good for some serious puckering.

 

[mjncad]

The moderator PM'ed me telling me he removed them because they showed signs of violence and this was a family oriented site and didn't like the content. He went on to tell me that If the right person took it the wrong way I could be sued over it

Like Paul, I got popped by a certain prudish Epic Contributor over a comment I made in the oils forum.

It's sad that political correctness has invaded TBN.