Foundation for barn

[ldabe]

Bearhawk
I had considered a metal (pole barn) building before, but I just didn't care for the look on the outside.
I did come across another site that I have also considered:
Amish Built Horse Barns, Storage Sheds, and Modular Barns - Horizon Structures
in which I really like the outside look.

But like an idiot, I locked myself into this other barn without an escape clause! STUPID!

Well, as I was going about trying to get it moved to my place, most of what I was considering was height in the move. Again...STUPID!
Because the width is what has killed the move all together. I would have to remove quite a number of trees (to get down my 1300' driveway), and there is no way that is going to happen...it was one of the biggest reasons we bought the property.

So, EddieWalker's "Take it apart and rebuild it just like it is, or change it. " is going to have to be the final plan.

I'll try to take a lot of pictures...if nothing else occurrs from this whole ordeal, I should be able to provide everyone with a good laugh ;~)

 

[EddieWalker]

Sorry to hear it's not working out like you hoped, but I think in the end, you'll have a better barn this way. Now you will know what is good and what need replacing. You'll also be able to modify the original building and create something that is just right for you!!!

Eddie

 

[buckeyefarmer]

But even if I whittle the roof down myself, all things considered (minus a concrete floor) I believe I can come in under $10,000.
I can't build a 25'x30' pole barn for that!

I think others might have said it, but you can build a 25' x 30' barn for under 10K, without concrete floor.
It does look like a nice barn, and I hate to see old barns get torn down. I suggest tearing it down for the lumber and rebuilding.
I know if I could find a nice old small timber frame barn cheap, I would tear it down and rebuild it just for the fun of it.

 

[ldabe]

If anyone has some good tips or suggestions on how to dismantle a barn, now would be the time to offer them...pics would be of great help.

It looks like to me that there is no way to save the fairly new shingled roof, so when I start, I guess that will be the first thing to go (into a dumpster).
Then I guess I will start removing the plywood over the original roof cross boards, then those boards and then the rafter lumber.
Now here is where I think there could be two options:
1) Remove wall boards (tongue & grove inside, lap outside, under vinyl siding) board by board.

or

2) Cut the walls in sections (approx. 10'x10') after removing the vinyl siding.

All comments/suggestions appreciated!

Btw, thanks for all your comments/suggestions before.

 

[EddieWalker]

Sounds like you have a good plan. Start at the top and leave the walls intact. Once you get the etire roof off, then take off the sideing. Leaving the siding on until the last will keep the walls stiff and solid.

Good luck,
Eddie

 

[mikim]

Don't cut the walls! All you will be doing is creating scrap. I know it will take longer and more work to remove it all piece by piece, including the siding, as carefully as you can - but that's where your money is. If you start cutting it up - you might as well just set a match to it. Can you strike a deal about disposal of the pieces you don't want from the place it's at? Seems a waste to have to move it just to dispose of it. If you could pile it there then hire a dumpster after you move all the good stuff. You've got a heck of a project ahead of you - and I'm sure you have days of dread thinking about where & how to start. First thing is -- don't even think of the ending. Grab a hammer and pry bar and tear into it thinking of what you want to accomplish just that day.... don't set your sights on the last day -- just look to the end of each day. Do you have a time limit on this? If you're fighting a deadline - get help. Trying to hurry the job against a deadline will only do 2 things (besides the frustration) 1. it'll create more scrap and cost you $$ in material loss & 2. it will set you up for an accident -- and you surely don't want to hurt yourself or anybody else in this. Getting help is also good for one's moral - you don't feel so alone -- misery does indeed love company -- but it will help you motivate yourself too. ----- history --- In 1988 I was raising 3 kids on my own in a mobile - it burned. I had insurance, but not enough so my only recourse was to rebuild it. It was saved enough to do that. For 3 days I went out there and all I got done was a lot of hand wringing and soul wrenching. On the 4th day a friend showed up with his sledge hammer and started knocking walls out - that's all it took -- getting started. 6 months later we moved back in. If he hadn't showed up to get me started ...

 

[JRobyn]

.... tips or suggestions on how to dismantle a barn, now would be the time to offer them...pics would be of great help....

Pic attached of the old tobacco drying pole barn we took down for a neighbor a year or two ago. It was in a lot worse shape than your's sounds like it's in!

We disassembled mostly in the inverse order of construction; roof tin first, then siding boards, then frame. Most of the lumber was rough mill sawn oak, either a full 1" thick (siding) or 2" (frame). The lumber was a little green and soft when it was built in the 40s, but that stuff is hard as iron now. The best tip I can give you, is to go buy several of the biggest, heaviest pry bars you can find. Even with pine, they'll make disassembly much easier. You'll also need a few 10# sledge hammers!

Our plan was to eventually reassemble into our own pole barn, but despite my careful stacking of the timber (in the field) to allow good air circulation, I'm afraid it will rot before I get chance to rebuild. Plus, my wife now thinks she wants to panel the inside of the kitchen of the house we eventually plan to build with some of the siding boards. Ah well, that old 2" framing and the rusty tin will still make some wicked good sheds.

- Jay

 

[Diesel-ME]

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2) Cut the walls in sections (approx. 10'x10') after removing the vinyl siding.

Go out and buy a really nice recipricating saw (e.g. Milwaukee Super Sawzall, etc) - not a cordless unless there is no power there. Once the roof is off use the sawzall to cut the nails that hold the wall panels together and carefully dis-assemble the building. You are going to want a bunch of long 2x4's to temporarily support walls as you take it appart.

Can you move whole walls on a trailer? (a bit wide on the road, but I hope so ...)

You'll have to decide re: the siding - probably have to remove it.

~paul

 

[ldabe]

This Project Has Been Cancelled!

Thanks everyone for all your input, it was very much appreciated, but things just kept falling apart in trying to make this happen.

Thanks again,
Abe.

 

[EddieWalker]

Sorry to hear it didn't work out for you. I've taken one barn down and done quite a bit of demolision on homes I've worked on, and it's a much bigger job them most people imagine.

Thanks for the update.

Eddie