Congrats! You won't regret your choice. I chose to pay a little more and drive further for a dealer to get the Massy. I don't plan on selling it for many years so paying extra for a more stout tractor seemed like the logical choice.
GC vs BX, both good machines, but I have decided..
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bxkubota
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Well, I to am contemplating a Massey over a BX25 so I trekked to the only Massey dealer near me in western PA and was quoted $20100 with a mower deck for a GC2410. The dealer didn't have any in stock and has three coming from the Texas port which resulted in a higher price quote. He stated that he couldn't get any from the Baltimore port which would have been cheaper. I really couldn't get a look at the machine in person so I guess it looks like I am going orange. He did have a GC2400 no attachments in stock but just not the full package I was looking for. Just thought I would share my Massey experience. The dealership and staff were very personable and nice which was a plus compared to my local Kubota dealership.
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Wacky
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I hear you. I am still waiting for my MMM and my set of R-4's my dealer ordered from Baltimore he said the barge was due in this Thursday! I am sorry that you are in that situation. I had bought the last GC2610 he had in stock and he told me he cannot get anymore until August!! So, I think Massey needs to increase production, these things are selling like crazy!! Check with Wallace, I think he will help you out!
I've been comparing pricing in Western PA between BX25 and GC2410 TLB's.
I was quoted $17000 end of last Nobember with 0% financing for the GC2410.
I went to the same dealer and the price is now $17900, when I mentioned the november price he said to call in a week when he expected delivery, he had none in stock. He said the factory rep was in and now they should be getting some in end of this week? Also he told me the cash price would be $2000 less ( FEL) if no financing. I would think the price would be around &$15500 delivered plus tax. Is this a good price to shoot for?
The BX 25 pricing was $17400 and $17900 at the two closest dealers to me and no discoount for cash. Yet another reason to go Red.
I was quoted $17000 end of last Nobember with 0% financing for the GC2410.
I went to the same dealer and the price is now $17900, when I mentioned the november price he said to call in a week when he expected delivery, he had none in stock. He said the factory rep was in and now they should be getting some in end of this week? Also he told me the cash price would be $2000 less ( FEL) if no financing. I would think the price would be around &$15500 delivered plus tax. Is this a good price to shoot for?
The BX 25 pricing was $17400 and $17900 at the two closest dealers to me and no discoount for cash. Yet another reason to go Red.
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Wacky
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I think it is a good price:thumbsup:. I know you won't be disappointed. I like my 2610 more and more. My neighbors own BX's and like my 2610. Either way you go you will be happy, just be sure to check which one is more comfortable to you, and will do what you want.
Good luck!!
ScottW
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Thanks to everyone who offered their advice about choosing Kubota and Massey-Ferguson in this and similar threads. We went red. I just had my first real work session on the machine yesterday and it was great. The power was stunning to me. As the day went on I got better with the loader, but I'm still jerky with the backhoe.
The most important tractor job for us in the long run will be snowblowing a 700' driveway at the new house that we're building this year, and working a garden. No mowing. After hiring a mini-excavator for several tasks, we decided to get a tractor now so that we can take over that kind of work. We considered orange, green, yellow, and red. Orange and green are by far the most popular brands in my area for small machines. I think our red one might be the first one in our Valley. Dealerships range from 45 to 100 miles away.
I ruled out green early on because a number of locals thought there were chronic problems with their smaller tractors. I also got negative feedback about the green dealer, especially their sales force. So I got quotes for orange, red, and yellow tractors. Cub Cadet lost out because they were most expensive ($17660), didn't seem to have a stellar reputation with people, and the dealer didn't have any to see and test drive. Plus the person I talked to just didn't make any case for it. Kubota was the front runner, because they are well-made, reliable, and definitely a known quantity where I live. But the dealer didn't have any available, for at least 3 weeks, and there was no deal to be had. In the end we went with red, and the choice was easy for three reasons: 1) least expensive, 2) it seemed to be a better overall machine, and 3) the dealer had one on the lot.
We got the MF GC2410 TLB. The dealer, Central Washington Equipment, is very much an old-fashioned kind of place, dirty inside and out, no salespeople (we dealt with the owner), and minimal computerization. It was quite a contrast to the clean, well-lighted milieu of the Kubota dealer. But we were impressed by the shop--at least half a dozen mechanics, and tractors being worked on that were stripped down practically to their chassis--a real serious fix-it place. It seemed that the low-overhead nature of the dealership worked in our favor in terms of getting a good price ($15,990 cash for the TLB). We also got a Rankin ZLL-130 rototiller and Rankin box scraper, with an MF snowblower to come this fall. The dealer threw in a Rankin thumb, front tire sealant, hooks on the loader bucket and a chain for no extra charge. The BX-25 price was $17,160, and the implements would have cost more too. I think a significant price differential often comes down to factors like manufacturer incentives and whether the dealer has already bought the machine or has to order it.
The most important tractor job for us in the long run will be snowblowing a 700' driveway at the new house that we're building this year, and working a garden. No mowing. After hiring a mini-excavator for several tasks, we decided to get a tractor now so that we can take over that kind of work. We considered orange, green, yellow, and red. Orange and green are by far the most popular brands in my area for small machines. I think our red one might be the first one in our Valley. Dealerships range from 45 to 100 miles away.
I ruled out green early on because a number of locals thought there were chronic problems with their smaller tractors. I also got negative feedback about the green dealer, especially their sales force. So I got quotes for orange, red, and yellow tractors. Cub Cadet lost out because they were most expensive ($17660), didn't seem to have a stellar reputation with people, and the dealer didn't have any to see and test drive. Plus the person I talked to just didn't make any case for it. Kubota was the front runner, because they are well-made, reliable, and definitely a known quantity where I live. But the dealer didn't have any available, for at least 3 weeks, and there was no deal to be had. In the end we went with red, and the choice was easy for three reasons: 1) least expensive, 2) it seemed to be a better overall machine, and 3) the dealer had one on the lot.
We got the MF GC2410 TLB. The dealer, Central Washington Equipment, is very much an old-fashioned kind of place, dirty inside and out, no salespeople (we dealt with the owner), and minimal computerization. It was quite a contrast to the clean, well-lighted milieu of the Kubota dealer. But we were impressed by the shop--at least half a dozen mechanics, and tractors being worked on that were stripped down practically to their chassis--a real serious fix-it place. It seemed that the low-overhead nature of the dealership worked in our favor in terms of getting a good price ($15,990 cash for the TLB). We also got a Rankin ZLL-130 rototiller and Rankin box scraper, with an MF snowblower to come this fall. The dealer threw in a Rankin thumb, front tire sealant, hooks on the loader bucket and a chain for no extra charge. The BX-25 price was $17,160, and the implements would have cost more too. I think a significant price differential often comes down to factors like manufacturer incentives and whether the dealer has already bought the machine or has to order it.
bmarian
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Hi Scott,
Congratulations on your new toy, I mean your purchase. I am also learning to use the backhoe on my 2410 like you, the best tip I learned is in the backhoe manual. It says to run the engine at 1500 RPM when learning to use the backhoe. There is plenty of power to run the backhoe but it will run slower hence smoother. I also practice "digging" on top of the ground, no actual material is moved but I practice working multiple cylinders at once. Stick time is hard to beat for learning to run the backhoe, even if you are not moving much material. I have a retaining wall I am moving dirt for now and the 2410 backhoe can dig very fast when you get in the groove.
The other thing several of us have noted is the fuel economy of the 2400 series. I just put another 5 gallons in the tank which means the tractor has used less than 15 gallons of fuel in 30 hours of operation and it still has over 1/2 a tank. The fuel consumption was a positive I did not factor in when making my decision to purchase the Massey.
Enjoy your new tractor, I'm sure it will be a great piece of equipment for many many years to come.
Bruce
Congratulations on your new toy, I mean your purchase. I am also learning to use the backhoe on my 2410 like you, the best tip I learned is in the backhoe manual. It says to run the engine at 1500 RPM when learning to use the backhoe. There is plenty of power to run the backhoe but it will run slower hence smoother. I also practice "digging" on top of the ground, no actual material is moved but I practice working multiple cylinders at once. Stick time is hard to beat for learning to run the backhoe, even if you are not moving much material. I have a retaining wall I am moving dirt for now and the 2410 backhoe can dig very fast when you get in the groove.
The other thing several of us have noted is the fuel economy of the 2400 series. I just put another 5 gallons in the tank which means the tractor has used less than 15 gallons of fuel in 30 hours of operation and it still has over 1/2 a tank. The fuel consumption was a positive I did not factor in when making my decision to purchase the Massey.
Enjoy your new tractor, I'm sure it will be a great piece of equipment for many many years to come.
Bruce
ScottW
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Thanks for the suggestion about running the backhoe at low RPMs, Bruce. Now I just wonder about AGCO's recommendation to run the machine at full RPMs during the first 50 hours. My dealer says just run it normally, and that's mostly what I've been doing, but I have been running the backhoe high to get some time in the green RPM zone. I think I'll start a new thread about the break-in issue. --Scott
bmarian
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Hi Scott,
I also read the recommendation to run the engine at high RPM for the first 50 hours. Interesting that the backhoe manual contradicts the tractor manual.
One of my pet peeves relates to people who lug engines, lugging the engine is not good at any time especially during the break in period. So I make sure that if I put a load on the engine there are enough RPM's to prevent lugging whether going up a small hill or scooping up a load of dirt with the loader. The backhoe does not seem to cause the engine load to increase as much as the loader. This seems to deal with the way you use the loader, moving forward, lifting and curling the bucket when you are scooping up material.
But I just run the engine at any comfortable RPM that gets the job done. Of course I don't have a mower deck or any other PTO driven accessory that would require the higher RPM.
Bruce
I also read the recommendation to run the engine at high RPM for the first 50 hours. Interesting that the backhoe manual contradicts the tractor manual.
One of my pet peeves relates to people who lug engines, lugging the engine is not good at any time especially during the break in period. So I make sure that if I put a load on the engine there are enough RPM's to prevent lugging whether going up a small hill or scooping up a load of dirt with the loader. The backhoe does not seem to cause the engine load to increase as much as the loader. This seems to deal with the way you use the loader, moving forward, lifting and curling the bucket when you are scooping up material.
But I just run the engine at any comfortable RPM that gets the job done. Of course I don't have a mower deck or any other PTO driven accessory that would require the higher RPM.
Bruce