Help me decide on F 350 please!!!

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HCJ

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upstate South Carolina
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Kubota M6800 4WD
I was not really shopping for a truck but ran across a 06 F 350 (SRW) Lariat 4 WD diesel with 175,000 miles. I will trade my '96 F 250 4 WD (195,000 mi). I use it primarily for hunting, so not an everyday driver. I do tow a gooseneck pulling a 8,000 lb Kubota M 6800 and implements, which probably is close to the limit for my old truck. I tow this 3 or 4 times a year, never more then 75 miles. I can do this deal for $12,500 after trade. Advantages are getting a 10 year newer truck, much nicer interior, etc. My questions are: is this F350 superior to my old 250 for towing this gooseneck (total trailer weight is probably 13,000 loader). What is your opinion of this 06 F 350? It apears to be in excellent condition, is a one owner, drives much better than my old one. My justification would that a 10 year newer truck would be less likely to have issues. I just spent $1800 on a tranny rebuild, but never had any engine work done. My interior is beginning to look pretty rough, as it was not great when I bought it 3 years ago. I fear that with a '96, those minor repairs that cost $500 to $1000 are beginning to happen. This seems like a pretty good deal. On, the new one has 4 doors whereas my old one is the 2 door version with a back seat.
 
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I have a 06 and had only one issue, a bad dash cluster that showed up in the first 1,000 miles. Mine is a F-350 4x4 SRW with a short bed and extended cab and its a Lariat. It pulls like a dream. Loaded to the gills.

If you need the 4 doors go for it. Especially if it has the electric brakes from the factory. You will never go back to a after market unit after using it. My truck has held up very well but only has 1/3 the miles the one you are looking at does. The tranny and 6.0 diesel was all new in late 03 and much more stout than the previous offerings. I have a chip on mine since 5,000 miles. It will do 17 mpg towing and around town and high 23's on the highway.

Chris
 
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I have an '06 f250 reg cab with the 6.0 psd. It is a great truck for towing. No problems, as a lanscaper I trailer everyday. My trailer range from 5000 lbs to 12000 lbs. you will never go back to a gas engine if you get a diesel.
 
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I have a 06 and had only one issue, a bad dash cluster that showed up in the first 1,000 miles. Mine is a F-350 4x4 SRW with a short bed and extended cab and its a Lariat. It pulls like a dream. Loaded to the gills.

If you need the 4 doors go for it. Especially if it has the electric brakes from the factory. You will never go back to a after market unit after using it. My truck has held up very well but only has 1/3 the miles the one you are looking at does. The tranny and 6.0 diesel was all new in late 03 and much more stout than the previous offerings. I have a chip on mine since 5,000 miles. It will do 17 mpg towing and around town and high 23's on the highway.

Chris

What size tires do you run on your F350 SRW? I'm considering the F350 (1999-03 vintage) for towing a 10Klb GN flatbed trailer carrying my parade tractors.
 
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Take a look on Ford truck enthusist forum. Alot of good info over there. The truck will be a huge improvement for towing for sure but the 6.0 need to be run it won't do well sitting for long periods. When ever I let mine sit even a few day the turbo sounds terrible for a few minutes. 6.0 are also hard on oil. I run full synthetic and like the results. Get the vin and have a dealer run an oasis report on the truck. Common failures incluse turbo's, EGR components and head gaskets. They're also notorious for oil leaks from major to minor.
Hope this helps.

Matt;)
 
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I run the factory size on my F-350. They are 275-70-18. The factory tires were Continetal and stunk. I got stuck 3 times the first winter I had it twice on the paved road and once in the drive. Never been stuck before in any truck I have owned that was 4x4. 2 times my neighbor pulled me out with a F-150 and the other time a gas 3/4 ton Chevy came to the rescue. Pretty embarrassing. To top it all off the tires only lasted 28,000 miles. As you can see they have bad reviews on the link below.

These are the factory tires

Tire Details - Discount Tire

These are what I run now

1- 275/70-18 Nitto Terra Grappler AT Tire 70R18 R18 70R:eBay Motors (item 190340235920 end time Dec-06-09 07:23:51 PST)

Chris
 
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How does this $18000 price seem? THe truck does have factory brake control and a turnover hitch which looks unused (it missing the ball assembly, but I assume that's easy to replace, or my old B&W ball may fit it) They are offering me $6000 trade, for my F250, which is in average condition. In other words, $12,000 plus tax out of pocket. This seems pretty good to me.
 
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How does this $18000 price seem? THe truck does have factory brake control and a turnover hitch which looks unused (it missing the ball assembly, but I assume that's easy to replace, or my old B&W ball may fit it) They are offering me $6000 trade, for my F250, which is in average condition. In other words, $12,000 plus tax out of pocket. This seems pretty good to me.

Sounds high to me for a 3 year old truck with 175K miles (about 60K miles per year, 5K miles per month). That owner is really burning up the life expectancy of that diesel in a hurry. My comfort zone is 20-25K miles per year on a used 1 ton diesel PU.
 
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How does this $18000 price seem? THe truck does have factory brake control and a turnover hitch which looks unused (it missing the ball assembly, but I assume that's easy to replace, or my old B&W ball may fit it) They are offering me $6000 trade, for my F250, which is in average condition. In other words, $12,000 plus tax out of pocket. This seems pretty good to me.

I think the truck is too expensive,i see them for 14-16K with those miles,and your rolling the dice on a 6.0PSD with 175K miles on it.Unless they were recently done,the headgaskets are a ticking time bomb,and the injectors are very expensive and due for replacement at 175K.The 6.0 PSD is difficult to work on,and expensive to have repaired.Head gaskets require lifting the cab,and costs 2500-4000 dollars depending on what needs to be done.You also sated the truck wont be a daily driver,6.0 PSD's have a VGT turbo that sticks if you let the truck sit much.When they stick,it overspeeds the turbo and blows it apart,sometimes right thru the hood.Not cheap,and can take the engine with it.I'd look for a 6.0 truck with lower miles,or find a clean 02-03 7.3PSD truck,and not worry as much about the miles.
 
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I think the truck is too expensive,i see them for 14-16K with those miles,and your rolling the dice on a 6.0PSD with 175K miles on it.Unless they were recently done,the headgaskets are a ticking time bomb,and the injectors are very expensive and due for replacement at 175K.The 6.0 PSD is difficult to work on,and expensive to have repaired.Head gaskets require lifting the cab,and costs 2500-4000 dollars depending on what needs to be done.You also sated the truck wont be a daily driver,6.0 PSD's have a VGT turbo that sticks if you let the truck sit much.When they stick,it overspeeds the turbo and blows it apart,sometimes right thru the hood.Not cheap,and can take the engine with it.I'd look for a 6.0 truck with lower miles,or find a clean 02-03 7.3PSD truck,and not worry as much about the miles.

I have looked at a hundreds of listings on auto trader, and prices are all in the $24,000 up range, but granted, most have fewer miles. This truck I am looking at looks new, inside and out. It obviously was well taken care of, and with this high mileage, I must assume it was mostly highway miles. Yes, I worry about the possiblty of a major engine issue (head gasket, injectors, etc.) but with my current '96 with over 190,000 miles, I guess I have that same worry. It seems to me that a 10 year newer truck would have the odds in it's favor. So I could keep my old '96 and still risk the same issues, but it would be harder to justify spending thousands on repairing an old '96 whereas, repairing a '06 in great shape would be an easier pill to swallow. Or at least that is one way to look at it.

Thanks for your comments everyone. Did the '06 Powerstroke have fewer issues than the previous 6.0 L in earlier versions? How were the transmissions in this model? What should I look for as signs of trouble when I test drive it and check it out?? I am going to pick it up tomorrow and let my mechanic check it out. I drove it briefly and it seemed smooth, and looking underneath, I see no signs of any leaks.
 
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The 05 and later 6.0's were top notch along with the tranny. The 03's and early 04's were the ones with issues but in reality they should all be solved at this time through the warranty program.

Chris
 
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The 05 and later 6.0's were top notch along with the tranny. The 03's and early 04's were the ones with issues but in reality they should all be solved at this time through the warranty program.

Chris

Hi Chris, thanks for the reply. Would you be comfortable buying an '06 350 Lariat Crew Cab with 174,000? This truck really looks brand new, not even a door ding. The bed liner ( assuming its original ) has not been cut out for the B & W hitch, so I doubt it's ever pulled a gooseneck. I feel the $18,000 price is a pretty good deal. I will probably only drive it 5,000 miles a year, mainly locally. But for those who say a diesel needs to be driven, I will drive it several times a week. My '96 is beginning to show it's age, and I really don't want to put much more money into it. Plus I think this SRW 350 should handle my trailer better than my F 250.
 
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Hi Chris, thanks for the reply. Would you be comfortable buying an '06 350 Lariat Crew Cab with 174,000? This truck really looks brand new, not even a door ding. The bed liner ( assuming its original ) has not been cut out for the B & W hitch, so I doubt it's ever pulled a gooseneck. I feel the $18,000 price is a pretty good deal. I will probably only drive it 5,000 miles a year, mainly locally. But for those who say a diesel needs to be driven, I will drive it several times a week. My '96 is beginning to show it's age, and I really don't want to put much more money into it. Plus I think this SRW 350 should handle my trailer better than my F 250.

Watch some of these videos, they are very informative..... YouTube - 6.0 vs 7.3 POWERSTROKE FORD DIESEL 1 OF 6
 
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Hi Chris, thanks for the reply. Would you be comfortable buying an '06 350 Lariat Crew Cab with 174,000? This truck really looks brand new, not even a door ding. The bed liner ( assuming its original ) has not been cut out for the B & W hitch, so I doubt it's ever pulled a gooseneck. I feel the $18,000 price is a pretty good deal. I will probably only drive it 5,000 miles a year, mainly locally. But for those who say a diesel needs to be driven, I will drive it several times a week. My '96 is beginning to show it's age, and I really don't want to put much more money into it. Plus I think this SRW 350 should handle my trailer better than my F 250.

The 6.0 is a good engine but can get expensive like others have mentioned. In all honesty I would keep looking. I have never owned a vehicle with over 125,000 miles so I can not say. The 7.3 would be much cheaper to maintain or even a late model 5.9 Cummins. The only problem I see with the late model Cummins is the package its wrapped in. I guess its all what your market and gut tells you

Chris
 
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Man, that's a tough call. I typically shop for good used vehicles 1-3 years old with low mileage. That's how I ended up with my 06 F-350 dually PS CC KR.
I bought the truck with around 3000 miles, and just turned 45K. I've pulled some seriously heavy loads, and it has a trailer behind it more often than not. I also carry an 11.5' Lance camper on occasion. No problems to date, it's been a fantastic truck. I actually re-covered 2 lariat center seats to replace the KR center consoles so I can carry 6 passengers, it came out very nice.
On your possible purchase, I guess the mileage would scare me away....but that's me. Do you have access to service records to see scheduled maintenance particularly oil changes? Running synthetics? More stuff to consider... Good luck!
 
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I think its a good upgrade but still alot of money. I just helped a friend that totaled his truck look for a newer truck and anything under $15K was rough for the money. He ended up with same year dodge '06 & spent alot more than what your looking to spend. I also helped sell a pair of 01 F350's that had really low miles around 50K but if they would have had an hr meter it would have been 10,000+hrs as they sat in constrution zones all day running stobe lights 10hrs a day 6days a week for 8 yrs. At least you know this one didn't sit or idle much. I wouldn't be scared of it. You will realy like it once you get in and pull something with. Most of my purchases are newer high mileage 100K+ but I have been known to buy a new one, I have always been happy with the used one because they usually didn't have payment.

Good luck shopping
 
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HCJ;
If your usage is so limited..... why would you want a diesel in the first place ? Your going to invest alot of money in that oil pit in the near future. The worst thing you can do is let them sit for extended periods of time.
Call an out of town Ford dealer and tell them you have this truck and want to sell it to them. This will give you an idea of its true value. Several local dealers wouldn't take a Ford V-10 in trade. I believe Ford quit building them also.
Diesels are not cheap to maintain. A lower mileage gas version would suit your needs much better................ but its your money, and image !
 
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HCJ;
If your usage is so limited..... why would you want a diesel in the first place ?

I agree, there is no need for a diesel for towing 13k lbs 3 or 4 times a year. Any newer gas 3/4-ton truck will do that easily, cost less to purchase, cost less to maintain and unless your towing hundreds of miles at a time, won't cost much more in fuel. Diesel in this area is more then premium fuel right now.

Here's one: Cars for Sale: 2006 Ford F250 4x4 SuperCab XLT in MC CORMICK , SC 29835: Truck Details - 270112018 - AutoTrader.com
 
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I agree, there is no need for a diesel for towing 13k lbs 3 or 4 times a year. Any newer gas 3/4-ton truck will do that easily, cost less to purchase, cost less to maintain and unless your towing hundreds of miles at a time, won't cost much more in fuel. Diesel in this area is more then premium fuel right now.

Here's one: Cars for Sale: 2006 Ford F250 4x4 SuperCab XLT in MC CORMICK , SC 29835: Truck Details - 270112018 - AutoTrader.com

I really like Fords but that truck wouldn't pull its own weight you won't find anyone that thinks the 5.4 is a good motor pulling anything more than a small boat or atv. I understand the OP wanting a good truck that will safely handle large loads when needed. I would say a v10 would work but if I would take an old smoker anyday over a new gaser.
 
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The seller let me keep this truck for two days and have my mechanic check it out and allowed me to drive it a while. My mechanic spent several hour going over it. He is advising (since no records are available) changing all fluids and filters of course, and I would do this anyway just to start a program. He says it needs rear brakes. Again, no big deal. One front wheel bearing is suspect, and he plans to check it out further. Maybe needs a front hub assembly. Replace the serpentine belt, as it looks aged. The power steering feels really stiff, and he says to see if the fluid change helps and if not, maybe the pump is weak, but he needs to figure that out, but he sees nothing wrong with the front end. The tires are about 1/2 service. The rear pinion seal needs replaced. And the emergency brake sticks and needs repair. Of course, all of these things add up, but none are really anything serious, just expected maintenance issues.

I realize I could have a catastrophic failure of some major engine or transmission component anytime, but as far as he can tell, he sees no evidence of major issues brewing. And as I mentioned earlier, my older F 250 could break down anytime also.

I see this as an opportunity to get into a 10 year newer truck, with many more features and increased towing capacity, and 20,000 fewer miles than the one I have. I would certainly consider a V-10 but I have never seen one around here, as F-350 SRW seem to be pretty rare.

By the way, the engine shows 4000 hours of use. If you do the math, that is an average speed of over 43 MPH. I guess that shows a predominant use of highway miles, for what's that is worth. And the Carfax shows no reported incidents, and two owners. It was first titled in Charlotte, N.C. as a corporate vehicle and sold at 114,000, and the second owner was an individual in Charleston, S.C. It was used a little over 4 years, with an average use of about 43,000 per year.

Maybe I don't need a F 350, but my gooseneck 20 x 5 is heavy, and my Kubota M 6800 with a FEL and wheel weights and loaded tires, along with a heavy duty rotary cutter, and disc all adds up. I have never weighed it but it seemed all that my old F 250 could handle. I tend to want the best in any tool, that's just my nature. As you can see, I am trying to justify this purchase, as this truck is in such good shape on the outside. I guess I am willing to take a gamble on it based on what my mechanic tells me and how it drives. I just don't see any glaring red flags, other than the questionable reputation of the infamous 6.0 liter. And I will not let it sit for extended periods, as I will drive it 2 or 3 days a week. And lastly, my 14 y.o. daughter likes it better than my old one and isn't as embarrased to be seen in it, and my wife appreciates "it's less smelly and noisey". If I come back in a year complaining of a breakdown, some of you can tell me "I told you so!" But I think I am going to go for it. Thanks all for the input.
 

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