JD 2520 vs Kubota B2620 in Resale

[Seezer]

I'm looking to buy a 4WD tractor to landscape my house - just can't stomach paying $70-100K to a landscaper. Figure I can landscape for $20K in materials + the tractor cost over a year (and quite a bit of my time). I'm looking at the Kubota B2620 w/FEL and JD 2520 w/FEL. I would plan to rent implements (scraper, tiller, etc.) as needed and have a friend with a 790 Deere with backhoe so I don't feel the need to spend the extra $ for just 1-2 uses. Both are fairly identical in specs - I can get the Kubota for $15,250+ tax and the JD for $15,940+ tax. Both have good financing. Can anyone comment on major pros/cons that would sway the decision in one direction? For me, the key will be resale. Will the resale on the JD 2520 be higher than the Kubota to justify the higher price? Also, what amount of depreciation should I expect after a year, assuming low hours (<100 hrs), garage kept, clean, etc.? I'm hearing 10-15%. Thanks!

 

[Gizmo2]

How much property do you have? If it is more than 5 acres you'll probably end up keeping the tractor. Pick the one you like best, from a dealer you are comfortable with. Why not buy used?

 

[Seezer]

I wish I had 5 acres... I actually have .6 acres and a strict HOA in terms of what must be planted - grass, shrubs, stone, etc. I have been looking for used, but have not been able to find anything here in Colorado that meets my needs. With the financing deals and having a warranty, it makes a new tractor seem ideal. Since I will sell the tractor when finished next Spring (and buy a zero-turn walk behind mower), not mow/maintain my property with it, and have limited garage space I am really focused on resale. Both tractors are solid and will meet my needs for hauling stone, cobble, dirt, sand, pavers, compost as well as tilling/scraping. Thanks for any help you can provide.

 

[Gizmo2]

I would have to say you would take a lesser hit on resale, if any at all, buying used. You'll probably sell a used one for what you paid. You will more than likely take a big hit on selling a slightly used tractor especially owning it for such a short period of time and you'll need to sell it at a reduced price (not really what it's worth) so a buyer does not want to buy new. Seems if you cannot find a used tractor regardless of your decision you wont have any problems selling either one.

 

[Will_C]

The Kubota price seems high. I saw one at a local dealer for $14,000.
Will

 

[kennyd]

IMHO, and it's just that...The JD will hold it's value better. I know I am going to get in trouble for saying it...flame-suit ON

 

[Gizmo2]

IMHO, and it's just that...The JD will hold it's value better. I know I am going to get in trouble for saying it...flame-suit ON

I would have to agree, but I did not say it first. Good luck with that.

 

[ChuckinNH]

I like Kubota's, but having said that I do think that the JD2520 is more tractor than a B2620. 2K more money around here too. In engine size, etc. the B2620 is closer to the JD2320, and closer in capabilities too. If I were doing landscaping I would prefer the position control on the JD. Resale will depend on area preferences, but perhaps with an edge to the JD.

 

[Seezer]

Great feedback. I'm surprised the Kubota is closer to $14K in the East. I really expected the price difference between the JD 2520 and Kubota 2620 to be closer to $2K, so I never really considered the Deere at first. Maybe that is why the 2520 only looks $700 higher - the Kubota is too high here locally. On paper, the two tractors appear to be almost identical, but I did notice the tires are much larger on the JD 2520 - the tractor just seems bigger overall. Can I ask - what is "position control"? I've seen this mentioned but do not know what benefits it provides. Thanks again for all of the great feedback. Unless I get lucky and find a used 2520 locally, I may be leaning in the direction of the Deere based on everyone's feedback and the better 42 month/$0 down financing from John Deere.

 

[Birdmayon]

I can't explain all the mechanics of position control but I can break it down for you a bit. Regular 3 point hitch control is a lever that controls a hydraulic valve. It works like your loader...you push the lever forward and it (3 Pt) goes down until it either bottoms out or until you stop holding the lever forward. Wherever it stops it stops. Same in the up position. With the position control, you have a lever that you pull or push and the lever stays wherever you leave it (i.e. it does not return to the neutral or stopped position). There are markings on the slot that the lever travels through, marked 0 through 9 for example, 9 being full height, zero being bottomed out. Wherever you set the lever to, the hitch will go to a height that correlates to that number. Now, the number itself doesn't signify an actual value (i.e. setting 5 doesn't equal 5" of height or 5' of height), it's more along the lines of, you're dragging a box blade, you start cutting dirt with it and you realize that setting 2 gives you the exact height you want, so on each pass, if you set the lever to setting 2, you'll always set the 3 point to the same height. Without position control, it is all guesswork.

Hope that makes sense, that's probably a bit wordy for such a simple thing.

 

[Seezer]

Got it - I had an old Satoh with a back blade and could never get the blade set correctly to drag, plow, etc. If only it had position control... Given the yard prep work I have to do, position control is now a must. Guess I may need to compare the Kubota 2630 to the Deere 2520 instead.

 

[ChuckinNH]

Yes, I think that is a better match since both have very comparable features, power, and weight. In that match up, I like the Kubota because of the nice features on the three point hitch, and the extra capacity of the hitch, and loader though the 2520 may be a bit more nimble.

 

[art]

The hitches are different but yet the same. They both move from top to bottom but with a different control system.
To take a position control and move it to number three, will give you different heights! Same as number two, four or nine. They are not zero'd out! This sytem has been used for many years and has been a good system for those that are used to it.
The brands that use the Quarter inching system has full up and down the same but to pick the depth that you want to run you lower the implement and then adjust it in small increments with a short movement of the lever. This is a system that gives great three point implement control for grading.
I personally wouldn't own a hydro without it being three range! From my experience the most used range is the middle! This beats shifting from low to high while transporting fill from one are to the other with the engine racing or taking the time to go to high range to throttle down.

 

[Seezer]

As a point of reference on the B2620 from an earlier post - I did get a price of $14,000 on the B2620 wFEL from a dealer near my Dad's house in Ohio. That $1,250 better than my best quote in Colorado. He's driving out in 2 weeks pulling a Harley - I'm sure there's room on the trailer for a 4wd tractor if I can get one cheaper there.

 

[Nuru]

How large is that trailer, if you want to pull a harley and about 2500 pounds of tractor with it, that trailer is gonna need to be somewhere in the 5000 lbs GVWR.

Did you look on Tractor house and get an idea of what the used tractors are going for near your location?

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Use these to negotiate and that may help you get a better deal.

Also consider if you need 4WD or not.


If you have the resale/trade-in factor heavy on your mind. Deere does very well. It is also true that Kubotas depending on where you are do very well too.

 

[cast_and_blast]

IMHO, and it's just that...The JD will hold it's value better. I know I am going to get in trouble for saying it...flame-suit ON

In my neck of the woods, this is true as well. The Kubota is nice (I like the Deere better) and around here (MN) the Deere will hold its value better.

Scott