Jobsite Security Issues

[Dougster]

Aw I knew it. Someone shows Doug a shiny new toy and now he has to have one.

Now you make a joke... but that's the very first device I've seen that would actually secure my tractor against kids and/or thieves... at least when the backhoe is installed. Not at all thrilled about the price, but that is one safety/security device I definitely need!

Dougster

 

[tlbuser]

yes, they are nice deterrents. If someone can steal my machine with the outriggers down and locked, they can have it! that's somebody I don't want to screw with

 

[Dougster]

Bid in a police detail as well - Heck the they get to watch the phone company pull wire...

It's a private property job. Besides, the last thing I want to do is end up paying 66% of my revenue to those nice Boston "public servants."

Dougster

 

[civesnedfield]

Now you make a joke... but that's the very first device I've seen that would actually secure my tractor against kids and/or thieves... at least when the backhoe is installed. Not at all thrilled about the price, but that is one safety/security device I definitely need.

Dougster

I knew it. I wish I owned a supply house I would send ya a pretty picture every day.
Just being funny. I think it's a great idea, but it only solves one issue. Now answer me this how do plan to keep the hood locked, the fuel locked, the tires on the machine, ice picks out of the tires, spray paint off that pretty Red paint job, and all those other things that creative future crimanals will be doing to the RedBeast when you are not around. By the way some of those things they just might try while you are around.

 

[Dougster]

yes, they are nice deterrents. If someone can steal my machine with the outriggers down and locked, they can have it! that's somebody I don't want to screw with

Yep... but mainly I am concerned about the dang kids. As soon as I leave a jobsite... even for lunch or materials... you gotta know they are all over it. I see the signs everywhere when I return. Since my ignition and emergency brake are bad jokes... all I can do its lower the FEL (and 3-point or BH if attached) and pray they don't figure out how to break it loose or start it.

Dougster

 

[Dougster]

I knew it. I wish I owned a supply house I would send ya a pretty picture every day. Just being funny. I think it's a great idea, but it only solves one issue. Now answer me this how do plan to keep the hood locked, the fuel locked, the tires on the machine, ice picks out of the tires, spray paint off that pretty Red paint job, and all those other things that creative future crimanals will be doing to the RedBeast when you are not around. By the way some of those things they just might try while you are around.

It is not a pretty picture.

I think I probably made the right decision to take a pass and let him hire an "urban specialist"!

Dougster

 

[civesnedfield]

It is not a pretty picture.

I think I probably made the right decision to take a pass and let him hire an "urban specialist"!

Dougster

Yea that one is pretty much a no brainer. Hey did you bother to look around on that stabilizer lock site. They had a really cool attachment lock. That way no one can mess with the QA.

 

[plowking]

I see on one of those cop shows a rental or construction company had a compressor stolen, it was the trailer mounted compressor. The police found it because the compressor had a Lo-Jack device on it. The compressor was hidden in this guy's garage. When the police had him open the garage door, the garage was full of stuff. plowking

 

[Dougster]

Yea that one is pretty much a no brainer. Hey did you bother to look around on that stabilizer lock site. They had a really cool attachment lock. That way no one can mess with the QA.

I did not... but I'll check it out for sure. Anything that would buy me some real safety re: kids or vandalism/theft protection and I'm interested!!!

Dougster

 

[Dougster]

I see on one of those cop shows a rental or construction company had a compressor stolen, it was the trailer mounted compressor. The police found it because the compressor had a Lo-Jack device on it. The compressor was hidden in this guy's garage. When the police had him open the garage door, the garage was full of stuff. plowking

Hmmmmm Lojack for the tractor maybe??? I wonder if that makes sense? Knowing how poor the key is for the 4110... a total joke, fits all such machines... I was always amazed that my original selling dealer just lined them up outside along the road without a fence... and still never had a problem with theft or vandalism. Implements disappearing from his yard... yes, but never tractors.

I wonder what the message is in that fact.

Dougster

 

[tlbuser]

Lojack does make sense, to a point. A vehicle GPS unit makes more sense to me though. I've got the protrack stuff installed on my trucks, trailer and equipment.
Lots of shiny bauble stuff
GPS Vehicle Tracking :: ProTrackGPS ::
ASI Home Page
GPS Insight
AnyTrack.com: GPS-100 Product Features and Specifications

 

[civesnedfield]

Hmmmmm Lojack for the tractor maybe??? I wonder if that makes sense? Knowing how poor the key is for the 4110... a total joke, fits all such machines... I was always amazed that my original selling dealer just lined them up outside along the road without a fence... and still never had a problem with theft or vandalism. Implements disappearing from his yard... yes, but never tractors.

I wonder what the message is in that fact.

Dougster

Doug I know most of the rental companies are installing LoJack type devices on alot of their more portable expensive equipment. So the technology is there. I think now it would be a question of initial cost and probably a modest monthly service fee.

 

[horse7]

Another possibility could be to find a reasonably nearby razor wire and guarded equipment yard and pay for an overnight stay. You can't be the only person with this sort of problem, so it would be a business opportunity for someone to provide secure storage.

 

[Dougster]

Another possibility could be to find a reasonably nearby razor wire and guarded equipment yard and pay for an overnight stay. You can't be the only person with this sort of problem, so it would be a business opportunity for someone to provide secure storage.

I will admit that I hadn't thought a hoot about what it would take to successfully execute backhoe work in the inner city... particularly in the worst congested and currently most dangerous neighborhood in the inner city. My small business world stops at Boston's famous Route 128 and rarely goes beyond that boundary except for "friend of a friend" type personal connections. All of you folks are bringing up some very good points and suggestions, some of which are even quite applicable to work out here in the suburbs. But at the end of the day I've got to ask myself: Am I willing to take on that kind of hassle and personal and financial risk. For now, I think the answer is still a no.

Dougster

 

[Z-Michigan]

IMHO the personal risk is what would stop me. If it was merely theft risk I would price accordingly and look at rental equipment or razor-wire storage areas. But if the job's under a million (as if it wouldn't be) I can't imagine taking any significant personal safety risk for it.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Back in the late 90's, my brother and I drove by this Kragen auto parts that we were supposed to do. Notice that I said "drove by", we never even stopped, told the contractor to get somebody else. Sometimes the risk just is not worth it.

 

[john_bud]

I worked in East St. Louis for a couple years. One Monday there was a difference, the building across the street and down the block was just a small pile of rubble. I asked if there was an expansion or some re-development. "Nope, stole it" was the answer. Huh? Yep, they ran into the 3 story brick apartment building with a car and truck until it was knocked down. Then they took all the whole bricks, wire plumbing and fixtures. The remains were hauled off in 3-4 dump trucks. This was all done between Friday at 5pm and Monday at 6 am.

Another time one of the office ladies was at the stop sign 2 blocks from the plant and a man was crossing in front of her. He opens the hood, pulls out some side cutters and take the battery. All while the engine was running! She stayed in the car until someone from the plant came by and brought her to work.

The parking lots at the plant were surrounded by 10' fence topped with barbwire. A kid climbed the fence and stole a hood off a car, and there was a guard watching the video.


I wouldn't want to make a living in that area!

jb