Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!

[fidowanttobe]

Ultra, apparently no one but me noticed, but that's a BEAUTIFUL Chevy!!

 

[ljjhouser]

If the gas tank doesn't get you, that drive shaft under it certainly will.

 

[Hay Dude]

As far as I know it has the CP-4 pump. My first diesel was a new '82 GMC with the 6.2 diesel. 130hp and 250tq. Not a good engine, blown head gaskets and cracked heads. Traded for a new '85 F-350 with a 6.9 diesel, I think it was 135 hp and 325 tq. The diesels I had didn't start making decent power until I bought a new '99 F-350 with the 7.3 Powerstroke. My current truck has 475 hp and 1050 tq. I have an extended warranty on it and the salesman I use said I could extend it if I want to keep the truck for a while longer.

You might want to keep an eye on the CP-4
Its a glitter bomb waiting to happen

 

[not2old]

How many miles do you have on it ?

76000 KM, approaching 50000 miles. This car is not suitable to drive five months of the year

 

[3930dave]

I got a recall for the windshield wipers on my 2020 F150 in January, and to this day Ford says they still have no parts or resolution to the problem. And mine just failed today.
And a friends 2021 also failed.

I first heard about that ^ problem, from the local IH truck salesman, who was driving his company F150 all over Ontario, with no wipers, Kanadian Winter.

Went to email a buddy of mine about that (lives 2 hours away fr. me) that night, did a quick search, and found there were not one, but two NTSB recalls for that wiper issue.

Not slamming on Ford (we all know the extent of this industry problem), I drive one, but when a company drops the ball on a safety item multiple times, on their top $ maker..... we are well into looney-tunes territory.

Just starting into this thread, but I expect I'm preaching@Choir...... this trainwreck/truckwreck is why some people are pouring the money into rebuilding older and old platforms, including commercial heavy. Even if you have near-unlimited funds to play with, the latest bling does you no good if it's down most of the time....

It's almost like there is a War on the Automobile.....

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Toyota are apparently making a small pickup (not sold in the US) whose only ECM is for the a/c and ignition but only for timing and detonation control. I believe it has a carb. It has wind-up windows, manual transmission (I think), a radio and a USB port. Dirt cheap apparently and the reliability numbers way off the charts relative to "normal" cars.

Plenty of other vids show it, but easy ones to find (2 wheel fans) is Itchy Boots, as Noraly wanders the planet on 2 wheels.

No accident, but plenty of remote areas she transits, mostly what you see are Toy trucks, including very old ones. Sensor failure here on a Interstate (assuming somebody doesn't plow into you on the side of the road) is one thing...... 600 miles from anything, could be lethal.

I haven't seen the model you speak of, but can see that being supplied into remote markets today.

Rgds, D.

 

[RB5]

I got a recall for the windshield wipers on my 2020 F150 in January, and to this day Ford says they still have no parts or resolution to the problem. And mine just failed today.
And a friends 2021 also failed.

That is why I hope my 2013 F150 never dies.. 280k miles and good so far.

 

[3930dave]

Ultra, apparently no one but me noticed, but that's a BEAUTIFUL Chevy!!

He has so many, we have become conditioned to expect perfection from ur..... you are certainly correct.

His 30 p/u.... it will be one of the things he owns that will still be running after a Carrington event.... (Recent Jay Leno Garage - he teaches his young Producer to drive his Model T on the street. Jay said it is one of the things he owns that always fires up, regardless how long it sits - granted, it lives in Auto Heaven on Earth.....)

Jealous in Kanada, well-done ur !

Rgds, D.

 

[RB5]

I see your point. It sucks they make it hard for us regular guys to work on our vehicles. But—-how often do you see cars broken down on the side of the road? Not near as many as back in the 70’s and 80’s.

I also don't smell oil and gas fumes all the time like before fuel injection was on everything.

 

[RB5]

My 2013 F150 stx 4x4 supercab I paid $26k plus ttl. $10k off MSRP. It has the 5.0 and 3.73 elocker. No giant touch screen. It has almost 280k miles. This is easily the best truck I have owned. The bad thing is the new ones are in the $50k plus range for what I have seen They have $10k in gadgets I don't want. Some also have cyllindar deactivation and start stop technology. Those are more useless things that are not needed that will likely shorten engine life. It really sucks when they spend thousands of $s trying get an additional 1mpg EPA rating.

 

[deserteagle71]

It really sucks when they spend thousands of $s trying get an additional 1mpg EPA rating.

You can thank all those hard working folks we elected to Washington, D.C. for the rules and regulations making that necessary. Start-stop. 0W20 weight motor oil. Cylinder deactivation. And so on. Engineers got these engines so they'd go 300,000 miles easy and now the bureaucratic mandates are pushing that back down so you'll be lucky to get 100,000 miles out of an engine.

Why, unless things change, I'll be driving my 20+ year old diesels till I die.

 

[sunandsand]

Just looked up the price of a basic work truck - Silverado 1500, small V8, single cab, 8 foot bed. Comes with A/C, power windows, "entertainment center" (I guess cars don't have radios any more).

$47K base - out the door a hair over $50K. Essentially the same truck with a bunch of options is $75K. Oh, you want wheels and tires, and PAINT, too?

Ouch!

Best Regards,
Mike/Florida

 

[JRH02]

My 2013 F150 stx 4x4 supercab I paid $26k plus ttl. $10k off MSRP. It has the 5.0 and 3.73 elocker. No giant touch screen. It has almost 280k miles. This is easily the best truck I have owned. The bad thing is the new ones are in the $50k plus range for what I have seen They have $10k in gadgets I don't want. Some also have cyllindar deactivation and start stop technology. Those are more useless things that are not needed that will likely shorten engine life. It really sucks when they spend thousands of $s trying get an additional 1mpg EPA rating.

My current PU is a 2020 F350. I could NOT get the dealer to come up with a plain old basic rig. All they would present were PUs full of gadgetry and electric everything to run the price up. All I wanted was a F250, the smaller V8 w/10 speed, cruise and tow package. So I went to Ford's site. Learned the F250 can not be configured with the 6.2 / 10 speed but is available in the F350 / 10 speed (?!?). So I finished the configurator, printed it out and went to the dealer and said order it. They were displeased with me. I picked it up 8 weeks later. The F350 wasn't that much more $ than the F250 for the stronger frame, heavier axles and springs. Rides better than the wife's F250. Both our PUs have manual locks and crank windows. Basic AM/FM. Both PUs have been as reliable as the sun up.

 

[RB5]

Just looked up the price of a basic work truck - Silverado 1500, small V8, single cab, 8 foot bed. Comes with A/C, power windows, "entertainment center" (I guess cars don't have radios any more).

$47K base - out the door a hair over $50K. Essentially the same truck with a bunch of options is $75K. Oh, you want wheels and tires, and PAINT, too?

Ouch!

Best Regards,
Mike/Florida

You mean a Chromerado? Sorry I just can't call them Silverado. When I was driving chevy 10 series Silverado was a trim package. I had a 77 big 10 heavy half in that sparkly Cordova Brown with chrome spokes.

 

[fidowanttobe]

I hear that Nissan is going after the "mid-size" truck market with a $22k base model.

 

[3930dave]

My 2013 F150 stx 4x4 supercab I paid $26k plus ttl. $10k off MSRP. It has the 5.0 and 3.73 elocker. No giant touch screen. It has almost 280k miles. This is easily the best truck I have owned. The bad thing is the new ones are in the $50k plus range for what I have seen They have $10k in gadgets I don't want. Some also have cyllindar deactivation and start stop technology. Those are more useless things that are not needed that will likely shorten engine life. It really sucks when they spend thousands of $s trying get an additional 1mpg EPA rating.

Port fuel-injection, on that era of V8, pretty much Peak IC engine reliability. Can't have that, if we are going to force people to Go Electric.

I've seen the aux pump (keeps hyd pressure up in Trans, when shutdown @ light) for Stop Start replaced under Warranty, in a nearly new F150.

Sad, what the engineers have been forced to do....

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Just looked up the price of a basic work truck - Silverado 1500, small V8, single cab, 8 foot bed. Comes with A/C, power windows, "entertainment center" (I guess cars don't have radios any more).

$47K base - out the door a hair over $50K. Essentially the same truck with a bunch of options is $75K. Oh, you want wheels and tires, and PAINT, too?

Ouch!

Best Regards,
Mike/Florida

And, that's in real money, USD. You don't want to see the CAD pricing.... you'll break $200k in the heavier p/u's.

Rgds, D.

 

[bdhsfz6]

I rescued this 72 Chevy K20 pickup from a junkyard and restored it to running condition. I plowed snow for 10 years and hauled building materials for the new house I built. It had 40K miles on it when I picked it up and I ran it for 130K more before selling it to a friend. It was still in good running condition then, and he used it for several more years.

Fast forward to 2025 and I just had a safety recall completed on my 2022 GMC Sierra 1500 with less than 20K miles. There is a possible flaw in the crankshaft journals that could cause the engine to throw a rod. It checked out ok but I'm on pins and needles listening for any odd sound the engine makes.

You're absolutely right. They certainly don't make them like they used to.

 

[RB5]

I drove a rental car on vacation that had start stop tech in it. I hated it. I had to remember to turn it off every time I got in the car. I asked the Ford dealer if start stop and cyllander deactivation could be disabled and did not get an answer. I also was told years ago that I could not turn off the seat belt alarms in my 2013 F150. Those are pretty annoying when driving across my land and getting in and out of the truck to do things. I looked and found the disable instructions in the manual. All that proves is the sale person has no clue.
I saw it mentioned in a forum that you could put it in tow haul mode to disable those features. There goes the mpgs though.
The biggest problem I see currently is government regulations are forcing many people into vehicles they don't want that are overloaded with gadgets that are not saving as much money as they cost to buy and repair.

 

[3930dave]

I hear that Nissan is going after the "mid-size" truck market with a $22k base model.

You might have determined my Fleeing To Mexico move..... just to get that Dzl....

Rgds, D.