Don87
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I would say it's a safe bet, blow up the pictures in the New Holland brochure, and it looks like the same hitch:
http://agriculture.newholland.com/u...s/Boomer-Sub-Compact/Documents/nh11120802.pdf
Massey GC & Kubota BX Front Quick Hitch Compatable?
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http://agriculture.newholland.com/u...s/Boomer-Sub-Compact/Documents/nh11120802.pdf
radioman
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good grief! looks like the subcuts tractors are copy cats to each other just like GM motors.
Keep in mind also that some Kubota parts (i.e., shearpins) will fit, if you don't have ready access to M-F parts.... I'm sure other parts as well. I have a really nice parts blowup from a Kubota site. Everything sure looks the same.
jeremyfxdwg
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Sorry to dig up an old thread but ust wanted to clarify.... Will the Kubota Mid PTO kit fit the Massey quickhitch?
I have the Massey Quick Hitch for my plow and I have a line on a good deal for a kubota BX2750D with the Kubota Mid PTO kit and was wondering if Buzz was actually using his old Kubota driveline on the Massey hitch or if he was using the Massey driveline.
Thanks
Jeremy
Mattsy Fergy
Silver Member
It's only been 10 years, did you get an answer? LOL :confused3: :laughing:
I just bought a lightly used Kubota 2750C with quick hitch, for $1500.
Going by pics from tractorhouse, the blower appears to be identical to Massey's, but there does seem to be some differences from the Massey hitch.
The Kub hyd cylinder mount appears taller, so there might be a grill clearance issue when opening the hood.
The Kub has 2 wedge style, mount "tighteners" at the top, while the Massey is a single block that pulls up from the bottom.
Kub has 2 pins that slide through, Massey has none, but there is a hole for the mower mount that I hope lines up.
The guy I bought it from says the drive shaft is the same as the belly mower, (he kept his) but I don't think the Massey shaft is long enough.
I think (hope) it will, or I can make it, work.
When I get it home and have a chance to mount it up I'll take pics and post them.
Both the MF 2360 and the Kubota version blowers are made by the same Canadian company. As a result many --but not all-- of the parts are interchangeable, but how the blower attaches to the tractor is where it gets proprietary. The MF system uses a very long driveshaft to go from the Mid-PTO up to their quick-hitch for the blower (see my signature pic below), whereas Massey's MMM driveshaft is quite short, see below.
I've used a number of Kubota parts on my blower -- bearings, shear pins, etc. but there's a difference in the gear reduction section: the Kubota large sprocket has 30 teeth @ 5" diameter whereas the MF sprocket has 24 teeth and is 4-1/2" in diameter. The Kubota, therefore, has slightly more gear reduction than the MF version, so it will run at a slightly lower fan speed for a given engine speed.
There was a guy on this forum who successfully made a Kubota blower fit his MF sub-compact, but I believe he ended up having to get a MF quick-hitch assembly & mid-PTO driveshaft to make it work.
EDIT: In re-reading this thread, it also appears that earlier Kubota blowers were much closer (identical?) in their mounting arrangements to the MF quick-hitch business.... but it sounds like later-version Kubota blowers used a different set-up....
I've used a number of Kubota parts on my blower -- bearings, shear pins, etc. but there's a difference in the gear reduction section: the Kubota large sprocket has 30 teeth @ 5" diameter whereas the MF sprocket has 24 teeth and is 4-1/2" in diameter. The Kubota, therefore, has slightly more gear reduction than the MF version, so it will run at a slightly lower fan speed for a given engine speed.
There was a guy on this forum who successfully made a Kubota blower fit his MF sub-compact, but I believe he ended up having to get a MF quick-hitch assembly & mid-PTO driveshaft to make it work.
EDIT: In re-reading this thread, it also appears that earlier Kubota blowers were much closer (identical?) in their mounting arrangements to the MF quick-hitch business.... but it sounds like later-version Kubota blowers used a different set-up....
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blackd
Platinum Member
I finally used the Kubota QuickAttach with a home built plow. I did not use the mid-mount drive train. It's a plow after all. ;-) I did use a MF female shoe on th4e plow mounted on the Kubota male shoe. Perfect fit from the shoes forward. What does not quite fit is the Kubota male shoe mount to a MF GC2400. There is a difference in the frame cross members, and the Kubota mount will not quite fit without cutting some material to make room. If you have a rotary cutter it takes a few minutes to remove the excess material to make it better fit. There is no loss in strength. Plenty of metal on both. IIRC there is a difference in the locations of the screw down pin to tighten the Kubota male shoe mount to the MF. I added a wider piece of steel just added behind the original to actually make it fit and tighten against the lower MF frame.
The only way to teel if the mid-mount drive shafts are the same is measure lengths and compare splines. My best guess is that they the same.
The only way to teel if the mid-mount drive shafts are the same is measure lengths and compare splines. My best guess is that they the same.
Mattsy Fergy
Silver Member
OK, I got a chance to work on it today. If I do this right the attachments will be in order.
I set the kub mount on my Massey, first problem was that the bearing mounts for the blower drive shaft hit the steering.
I initially tried to move the hitch forward to clear the steering, which caused the other bearing to hit the axle.
So that wasn't going to work, My next idea was to notch my front frame, where the hitch tightening wedge bolts are, to allow the hitch to sit lower and clear the axle and steering, when contacting the front tractor frame properly. This also allows the hitch to sit on the top ledge, rather than on the 2 bolts. And the bearings now clear. I lost about 5/8" ground clearance.
This pic is the front top of the Massey frame. The hose is in the way but there's a T handle on that bolt, which can seen in the last pic.
So now the issue is to secure the lower part of the hitch. On the Kub there's 2 pins that slide through the hitch and tractor frame. None of the Massey holes line up with those 2 holes, so I'm going to make a couple plates that will bolt into the Kub hitch holes but extend up to the Massey frame holes. I should be able to slide a long bar through there, keeping install and removal of the hitch fairly quick.
I see 2 more issues, 1 is that due to the height of the hydraulic cylinder mount, the hood will only open about halfway, enough to get jumper cables on it if needed, and 2, the hydraulic quick connect fittings will need changed. The Massey ones are bigger.
I think I can "modify" the cylinder mount by cutting it loose and angling it forward, which should give me more room to open the hood.
I will need to get a mid mount snowblower drive shaft, my mower shaft is too short. The Kub part number says the shaft should be 37.25" long, and that's the measurement I get.
I hope that the spline count and size on the Massey pto is the same as the Kub.
I set the kub mount on my Massey, first problem was that the bearing mounts for the blower drive shaft hit the steering.
I initially tried to move the hitch forward to clear the steering, which caused the other bearing to hit the axle.
So that wasn't going to work, My next idea was to notch my front frame, where the hitch tightening wedge bolts are, to allow the hitch to sit lower and clear the axle and steering, when contacting the front tractor frame properly. This also allows the hitch to sit on the top ledge, rather than on the 2 bolts. And the bearings now clear. I lost about 5/8" ground clearance.
This pic is the front top of the Massey frame. The hose is in the way but there's a T handle on that bolt, which can seen in the last pic.
So now the issue is to secure the lower part of the hitch. On the Kub there's 2 pins that slide through the hitch and tractor frame. None of the Massey holes line up with those 2 holes, so I'm going to make a couple plates that will bolt into the Kub hitch holes but extend up to the Massey frame holes. I should be able to slide a long bar through there, keeping install and removal of the hitch fairly quick.
I see 2 more issues, 1 is that due to the height of the hydraulic cylinder mount, the hood will only open about halfway, enough to get jumper cables on it if needed, and 2, the hydraulic quick connect fittings will need changed. The Massey ones are bigger.
I think I can "modify" the cylinder mount by cutting it loose and angling it forward, which should give me more room to open the hood.
I will need to get a mid mount snowblower drive shaft, my mower shaft is too short. The Kub part number says the shaft should be 37.25" long, and that's the measurement I get.
I hope that the spline count and size on the Massey pto is the same as the Kub.
Mattsy Fergy
Silver Member
Thanks.
I was just comparing the hitchs again, and I noticed the Massey hyd cylinder is mounted offset to the side, while the Kub hitch is centered, with a "bridge" to clear the drive shaft.
They appear to be the same cylinder, so now I have to decide whether to copy the Massey design, or shorten the Kub bridge, to keep full lifting capability.
Time to make some measurements!
I was just comparing the hitchs again, and I noticed the Massey hyd cylinder is mounted offset to the side, while the Kub hitch is centered, with a "bridge" to clear the drive shaft.
They appear to be the same cylinder, so now I have to decide whether to copy the Massey design, or shorten the Kub bridge, to keep full lifting capability.
Time to make some measurements!