Need First Tractor. . . I want to learn! ! !

   / Need First Tractor. . . I want to learn! ! ! #41  
So here's the thing. If you get a tractor, any tractor and decent implements, you will be amazed with what you can do. So whether you buy used or new, CUT or old farm tractor, if you have the right implements, you will do cool things. Your budget will dictate the direction. If you start off used or really used, you will probably end up upgrading down the line. That's okay, you will have gotten a lot of work done, and will have a better idea of what version 2.0 should look like. If you buy new right out of the chute, well, way to go.

In any case, here is what I think is a good start.

30hp-40hp Tractor WITH Loader
Rough Cut Rotary Cutter
Rear Blade
Tiller

That will get you off and running.
 
   / Need First Tractor. . . I want to learn! ! ! #42  
Hello jezreel,I am going to offer a contrary opinion. Use a contractor to do the big initial jobs, and get a smaller tractor to look after the maintenance. It is quite easy to overspend or spend on the wrong attatchments at your level of inexperience.
Good Luck whichever way you jump.
 
   / Need First Tractor. . . I want to learn! ! ! #43  
Don't generally disagree w/ rScotty, however the cash purchase is overated in some cases. Case in point: Few years ago, my kubota financing required NO money down, O percent- 60 months, even the sales tax was using kubota' s money. At that time cash vs finance price of machine was the same. Manufacturers have since become a little smarter, baking in a finance fee.

That's OK. Sometimes I disagree with myself....and as an example, when we bought the M59 in 2008, my wife and I had been looking for months and knew we had found the right tractor. We had already been to JD, NH, Cat, and Case - and finally now we found what we liked best at Kubota. That sure surprised us! A Japanese tractor! Imagine that!! But no denying it was just what we were looking for. And seemed well made.

So we sat down with the dealer to enjoy the laidback farmstyle dickering on price and options that is so much a part of rural culture in the US. Both the dealer and I both knew that unless things went way wrong between us it was obvious that I was going to buy that particular tractor off their lot. But of course it was way less obvious as to just what the extras would be, and what would and wouldn't be included, or for that matter for how much total money. As well as just how the sales & service contract would read. Those are the fun parts of buying anything big.

We had gotten it all figured out and the sales contract written up to our mutual satisfaction and I'm actually opening my checkbook when the dealer asked if I would rather use the 0% financing instead of cash. uh...what??

For the slightest discount we would have paid cash. We expected to do so. It was frankly very hard for that dealer to convince me that cash vs Kubota's 0% financing really didn't make any difference to him, and that Kubota was entirely on the level with the 0%, 60 month financing - But after awhile he did. and well, shucks... to us that 0% financing sure looked a lot like a kind of ultimate disaster insurance all in itself. So we went with the financing & dutifully sent off checks every month for 5 years.

And they really did finance the entire price including tax at 0% for 60 months right to the penny. BTW, they had no problem accepting our rural homeowners insurance to cover the tractor used on the property.

To this day I'm not sure what advantage that Kubota felt like they were getting out of that deal by financing us. But on our side we sure did OK. Nice tractor, too.
But that kind of deal has got to be the exception...., or is it?
rScotty
 
   / Need First Tractor. . . I want to learn! ! ! #44  
I inherited my pop's 1976 Kubota L225DT. I believe they were made from 1974 to 1976 or 1977. I believe the horse power is around 24 hp with torque in the neighborhood of 72 lbs/ft. A word of caution; my dad exploded the front Differential twice over working it so be careful because Kubota stopped producing Diff parts a few years ago and trying to find used parts is next to impossible. I say next to impossible becuz after 8 years of searching i finally found a used diff in Nebraska for $950.00. Pricy but i just had to have the parts to make my tractor work properly. Other than that the tractor is bullet proof.
 
   / Need First Tractor. . . I want to learn! ! ! #45  
Weaver compact tractor parts in PA is a dismantler, a used parts source.
 
   / Need First Tractor. . . I want to learn! ! ! #46  
OP,
I was in the same situation as you. Zero tractor knowledge and plenty of land and a need to buy one. Started off thinking a 25 hp model would work but after joining this forum learned a bunch. I slowly upgraded my thinking until I got in the 45 hp hyda area.

Kobutos are about $4k more for the same setup.
Kiotis were priced good and my local dealer seems to offer good support
Bransons were nice and heavy, a little less than the Kioti, but the dealer was small and that concerned me he might be gone in the near future.

After 6 months of research went with the Kioti NX4510H with backhoe and FEL. It will not be delivered until next month so can not comment on the quality yet.

IMO price isnt everything. Dealer support and proximity are just as important as price, if not more so. I am sure if we have any issues operating our new toys the members here will help us, especially if it comes to spending more money!

Good luck.
 
   / Need First Tractor. . . I want to learn! ! ! #47  
Randy,

Not sure dealer proximity is ALWAYS critical to new tractor sales. There are numerous posts indicating members have traveled substantial distances to either purchase a brand not available locally, OR purchase a brand from a distant dealer offering a substantial purchase savings.

Many members are mechanically saavy, wherein minor issues do not present an impediment. I stated recently that I have purchased nine new tractors and NONE were EVER returned to the dealer for warranty service.

EDIT: see this post from today, screenshot below.
 

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   / Need First Tractor. . . I want to learn! ! ! #48  
Good point. But you are on at least your ninth tractor. Few of us novices have that experience to rely on. Heck, I am sure I will have to make weekly visits to my dealer just to learn the basics in the next few months.
 
   / Need First Tractor. . . I want to learn! ! ! #49  
A thought on an older tractor, down time and repair facility. A new tractor from a good dealer will get looked at quickly if you have a problem. Being retired, I don't want to spend my time fixing. Have been a mechanic all my life, don't need the practice anymore. My purchase was a new 1742 Massey cab tractor, dealer is only twelve miles away. Had bought an old Ford 3000, before I moved. Open station isn't a lot of fun blowing snow. Std gear drive makes loader work suck. Money in the bank doesn't do crap anyway, might as well enjoy. The new tractor makes chores a pleasure.
 
   / Need First Tractor. . . I want to learn! ! ! #50  
Just another opinion... I think reliability concerns with older equipment are over blown. Old simple mechanical machines rarely have problems. Your more likely to have problems with a new machine. A mechanical pre-Tier IV emissions tractor is a joy to own.
 

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