Need to tow a CAT D3 dozer with my non-dually F350

[Lil_FarmerJim]

In other words it is just a revenue generator and public highway safety be dammed.

DING! DING! DING! and we have a winner!

 

[Renze]

Hey, with low range I bet you can find an example of some rocket scientist bragging about how his 6 banger gas pickup can tow 20k.

Here in Holland, some jackasses are pulling a GVW of 15 ton with a 4 banger...
These minitrucks have a manufacturers rating of 10 ton GVW but through a loophole in the law, a trailer manufacturer gets these vehicles approved to 15 ton GVW... despite the biggest axle ratio available, you can only use 4 of the 6 speeds, unless you're going downhill.
The trucks are beaten to death within 100.000 km but at least they can be driven by a cheap 18 year old, without a commercial drivers license...
The European Union is talking about maximising the GVW of small drivers license, to 7 ton. This would increase the safety a lot here...

 

[Chuck K.]

Wow.. 15k is dangerously overloaded for a one ton dually???

Do I need a tandem axle Pete to pull my 12.5K 5th wheel camper??

The manufacturer may want to update their info as well..

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Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR): 20,000 pounds[1]
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Payload capacity: 5,130 pounds[1]
Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR): 24,000 pounds[1]
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[some zilch]

Amen. And the sooner we can get these "supertruckers" with their diesel pickups pulling 15K or more off the road, the better.

roger that one!

Something I see all the time now on the NYState Thruway (I-90) here is 1 ton dually PU's pulling "wedge" gooseneck 3-car haulers. Several times I've seen 3 full sized PU's or cargo vans as the load. Lets see, that's 15K++ for the load plus maybe 4-5k for the trailer. Just the one PU/van over the gooseneck has got to be overloading the bed limit of the 1 ton?? On an interstate highway I think they're going farther than "just going around the corner". How the heck are these guys getting away with it?

As far as safety my first thought is how do you stop that load? Heavy duty trucks/trailers have air brakes, but F350/450/550's don't. Pulling/stopping my 7k trailer behind my 1/2ton Dodge is enough exitement for me but at least it's legal.

In NY, you can register and plate a truck for whatever you want, safe or not. its a revenue generator. some clown right down the road from work routinley pulls a JD 650LGP dozer w/ winch on a tri-axle gooseneck trailer behind his early 2000s body style dodge (not new, but not the 1999 body style) 2wd dually. the dozer weighs about 20k, plus the winch, plus the trailer. he also has a trailer that can carry (5) minivans; two on top, 3 on the bottom. he worries me....

 

[some zilch]

I am curious what your Pete is rated at. They are typically only 33k here.

our pete and sterling rollbacks are regestered to 53k.

 

[Duffster]

our pete and sterling rollbacks are regestered to 53k.

Thats a lot for a single axle.

But what is it rated for (GVW/axle ratings)?

 

[Builder]

My single axle IH is registered at 56,000 GCWR.

 

[Duffster]

My single axle IH is registered at 56,000 GCWR.

We don't register for GCWR here.

Truck and Trailer have seperate wieght registrations.

 

[Cat_Driver]

Out here they shape golf courses with a 10K lb. CAT 286 with a dozer blade.

Maybe you don't need such a heavy tractor?

 

[Duffster]

Out here they shape golf courses with a 10K lb. CAT 286 with a dozer blade.

Maybe you don't need such a heavy tractor?

Still to heavy for the "supertrucker" troopers