New pickup

[oosik]

Man - and I almost crapped when the total came to $58K. $120,000 - that's got to be beyond anybodies limit. That's why I buy new in the winter. All the neighbors cows are locked in the feed yards. It will be at least four months before I start dodging those steamers left in my driveway. Those special off-road tires really grab a hot, steaming pie and throw it everywhere. If you are good - a solid barrage of poo - hot off the front tire - zooming right past your window. Out here they tell the city folk - that's the smell of money.

CAT_DRIVER - all the computer systems on the new pickup is the primary reason I got the extended warrantee.

 

[Jstpssng]

I generally try not to comment without reading a thread but will make an exception

Congratulations on the new truck! I always like hearing of people who have busted their butts all of their lives and finally go out and buy something nice. You really can't take it with you, so enjoy the new ride.

 

[Doofy]

I generally try not to comment without reading a thread but will make an exception

Congratulations on the new truck! I always like hearing of people who have busted their butts all of their lives and finally go out and buy something nice. You really can't take it with you, so enjoy the new ride.

Good point. Spend your kids inheritance because most don't deserve it or would even appreciate it. You earned it and deserve to splurge a little.

 

[oosik]

Good Lord Doofy - do three - 360 spins and touch your nose and belly button at the same time. I got to thinking I should explain a tad more. So I trade in the Jeep against the new pickup. I'm giving my son, my un-appreciative son, the 2005 F-150, free and clear( only 42K miles). He is really miffed at me because I spent all this money on a new pickup. He thinks I should pay off the loan on his house. And on the pickup - "well, what am I supposed to do with THAT, dad". I told him, put it where the sun don't shine and squeeze. About one more session like that - I'LL sell the dam thing and keep the money myself. It's not like he had any involvement in its purchase.

My wife & I both worked, scrimped, saved our entire life so we could retire. And now, "Sponge BoB", is miffed because I won't support him too.

I gotta quit now. I know my BP is elevating and I really want to try to keep harmony in our family. But, at times, I wonder why.

 

[Doofy]

Good Lord Doofy - do three - 360 spins and touch your nose and belly button at the same time. I got to thinking I should explain a tad more. So I trade in the Jeep against the new pickup. I'm giving my son, my un-appreciative son, the 2005 F-150, free and clear( only 42K miles). He is really miffed at me because I spent all this money on a new pickup. He thinks I should pay off the loan on his house. And on the pickup - "well, what am I supposed to do with THAT, dad". I told him, put it where the sun don't shine and squeeze. About one more session like that - I'LL sell the dam thing and keep the money myself. It's not like he had any involvement in its purchase.

My wife & I both worked, scrimped, saved our entire life so we could retire. And now, "Sponge BoB", is miffed because I won't support him too.

I gotta quit now. I know my BP is elevating and I really want to try to keep harmony in our family. But, at times, I wonder why.

oosik, I feel your pain. At times, I feel like carrion and I feel the buzzards circling (children) just waiting for me to croak. I've never seen such a greedy and self-absorbed bunch of "entitled" brats in my life. Sad, just sad.

 

[wroughtn_harv]

Now all you got to do is go to DMV and get “KIDSMNY” personalized plates.

Enjoy your truck. And be glad you’re not a dealer mechanic, that software upgrade has to be a tough pill to swallow.

I think on PBS I saw a story about how John Deere weaseled into some software law for computers and now has used it to make it illegal to work on their computers in your tractor. Maybe the auto industry has decided that is a good thing for them too.

 

[check]

I did the same thing. I just got a 2019 Ford F250 Lariat.
I searched for 6 moths for a good used, but everything on the planet had way, way over 100K miles on it.
I gave in and went for a new one. No one was dealing on these trucks so I started looking all over the USA. I found dealers offering 10K off new 2019 trucks so I took those numbers to my local stealers and they changed their tune from $1,000 off to $7,500 off.
They pushed the warranty I declined at $3,500. Then at the signing they said they could do $2,000 for the warranty. I said I'll do $1,200 for a 60K 5 year bumper to bumper premium take it or leave it. They came back at $1,250.00 so I bought the warranty.
I figure with all these computers and electrical anything that needed fixing will run over $1,200 the first time I need it.
All in all this is one of the finest vehicles I have ever driven and has options I'm still learning about a week later.

I went through two LEMON law buy backs from two different manufacturers. The first one took 2 lawyers and three years but I got to drive their vehicle for free for 3 years and put 60K mils on it before they gave me a new one. They tried to out wait or irritate me to give up, I never did. Plus it cost them 60K in legal fees and I got a new vehicle replacement.
The second one I lemon law'd in it a week. Took it in three time for the same problem then I enacted Lemon law on my own no lawyers. The manufacturer called and begged me for one more chance that I didn't have to agree to, but I said this is it. You get one more try after that give me a replacement.

Two weeks later they called and said order a new one. They have me $22K (MSRP) for the vehicle they bought back, and I only purchased it for $14,000K, so I made money on the Lemon Law. I went in the next day and ordered a new replacement the way I wanted.

That was some of my decision on a new vehicle. 1) I get the warranty. 2) I get Lemon law protection 3) I get a fresh vehicle with zero history on it from a previous owner 4) I'm not buying someone else's problems if their are some. All in all you pay the price on a new on, but you also get peace of mine. Buying used is always a dice roll and you can end up with a 4,000 pound paper weight of the bargain of the century?
I'm getting too old to gamble these days.

You the man, Cat Driver! 3 years and 60k miles for free? OMG, you really stuck it to them! I hope you pass this story on to your grandkids, snd they pass it on to their grand kids.,,.

 

[check]

Good Lord Doofy - do three - 360 spins and touch your nose and belly button at the same time. I got to thinking I should explain a tad more. So I trade in the Jeep against the new pickup. I'm giving my son, my un-appreciative son, the 2005 F-150, free and clear( only 42K miles). He is really miffed at me because I spent all this money on a new pickup. He thinks I should pay off the loan on his house. And on the pickup - "well, what am I supposed to do with THAT, dad". I told him, put it where the sun don't shine and squeeze. About one more session like that - I'LL sell the dam thing and keep the money myself. It's not like he had any involvement in its purchase.

My wife & I both worked, scrimped, saved our entire life so we could retire. And now, "Sponge BoB", is miffed because I won't support him too.

I gotta quit now. I know my BP is elevating and I really want to try to keep harmony in our family. But, at times, I wonder why.

Gheez, oosik, that is truly a bummer! Try not to think about it - think about your new truck!

 

[tornadowatchranch]

I researched this closely before buying my pickup. The Mopar factory extended warranty can be super but you have to do the maintenance on time or it is void. Depending upon length you may also have to get inspections to make sure it was not modified (tuner, bigger tires, etc) They even have a lifetime extended warranty on some non-diesel models that is not outrageous in price.

Check this out and compare the quotes from Ziegler to what you paid. I believe you have 30 days to cancel with your local dealer and get the warranty cheaper (???) from Ziegler or just take the quote and make them match it.

Save $$ on Genuine Mopar Vehicle Protection Warranty Plan!

I was also looking at the power wagon but found a steal on a GMC with the 6.0 so went that way instead.

 

[George2615]

Good Lord Doofy - do three - 360 spins and touch your nose and belly button at the same time. I got to thinking I should explain a tad more. So I trade in the Jeep against the new pickup. I'm giving my son, my un-appreciative son, the 2005 F-150, free and clear( only 42K miles). He is really miffed at me because I spent all this money on a new pickup. He thinks I should pay off the loan on his house. And on the pickup - "well, what am I supposed to do with THAT, dad". I told him, put it where the sun don't shine and squeeze. About one more session like that - I'LL sell the dam thing and keep the money myself. It's not like he had any involvement in its purchase.

My wife & I both worked, scrimped, saved our entire life so we could retire. And now, "Sponge BoB", is miffed because I won't support him too.

I gotta quit now. I know my BP is elevating and I really want to try to keep harmony in our family. But, at times, I wonder why.

So sad about your son. If that's his attitude then sell the truck yourself. Sadly, I'm in the same boat. My kids have always thought I was the Bank of Dad for the past 40 plus years. I finally cut them off when I retired 3 years ago. Now I'm lucky if I see or hear from them once a year. Oh well, Makes me sad they didn't inherit the work ethics and common sense I did from my Dad and Mom. Anyway, That's a story for another thread.
Congrats on the truck once again.

 

[kcflhrc]

Maybe he meant no one else would want to work on a Dodge.

 

[Jim Nelson]

The last time I saw a new Power Wagon was in the early '60's and I was working at the local Chrysler dealer in my home town in the Colo. mountains. One of the local ranchers ordered it and everyone in the shop was excited to see it. It was a light blue color and the biggest, heaviest built vehicle I've ever seen outside of the military stuff. I'm real sure that none of the stuff on your new truck had even been dreamed of yet and I would bet that the price he paid for it wouldn't even pay the sales tax on your truck.
Times sure have changed. Enjoy your new rig, you've earned it.

 

[Jstpssng]

Now all you got to do is go to DMV and get �IDSMNY personalized plates.

Enjoy your truck. And be glad youæ±*e not a dealer mechanic, that software upgrade has to be a tough pill to swallow.

I think on PBS I saw a story about how John Deere weaseled into some software law for computers and now has used it to make it illegal to work on their computers in your tractor. Maybe the auto industry has decided that is a good thing for them too.

My favorite bumper sticker... "I'm spending my children's inheritance."

I researched this closely before buying my pickup. The Mopar factory extended warranty can be super but you have to do the maintenance on time or it is void. Depending upon length you may also have to get inspections to make sure it was not modified (tuner, bigger tires, etc) They even have a lifetime extended warranty on some non-diesel models that is not outrageous in price.

Check this out and compare the quotes from Ziegler to what you paid. I believe you have 30 days to cancel with your local dealer and get the warranty cheaper (???) from Ziegler or just take the quote and make them match it.

Save $$ on Genuine Mopar Vehicle Protection Warranty Plan!

I was also looking at the power wagon but found a steal on a GMC with the 6.0 so went that way instead.

Truthfully, I can understand that to a point. It isn't the truck's fault if it's abused or poorly maintained.

 

[Doofy]

I bought a 1963 Dodge Power Wagon from Alaska DOT. Came with new tires and a Fisher snow plow. I paid $35. Big ol' truck that would go anywhere. It was 30" to the running boards and you could work under it sitting up. Had a little 225 slant six engine that never failed to start and run.

Like the Doofy Fool that I am, I traded for a 1970 FJ 40 Toyota Land Cruiser. Spent more time stuck than playing.

 

[ultrarunner]

Heart Felt congratulations... hope it brings a smile to your face and many trouble free miles!

I'm a California Certified Lemon Law Arbitrator and the question of maintenance comes up a lot.

As long as the consumer is able to demonstrate to the arbitrators satisfaction required maintenance/service was performed to the manufacturer spec we don't care who does it...

I have had owners come in with receipts for filters and fluids from the selling dealer and log books...

If you have to pay for it you have the right to choose.

The issues most likely to affect the warranty are three... abuse and modifications and accident damage.

So keep it stock and drive like you own it... and all should be good.

The advantage of factory authorized service is not having to prove proper service as it is a given if perform according to schedule.

Many do use Dealer Service during the warranty period to keep things simple... plus, any recalls or updates are supposed to be on the Dealer...

I've bought one new car in my life and 16 years later it is still my New Car... and looks it too.

 

[oosik]

Thanks guys. You do your best, try your hardest and sometimes things just don't work out right. Some day he might see the light - I hope I'm around when that happens.

However - I am excited about this new truck. The young salesman better bone up cause the 'ol fart is making a list and checking it twice. Got to put it in print or the shine and excitement will overcome my memory and quest for answers. I think I might have hurt his feelings when I asked if they could trade the 12K winch for a nice black painted front bumper. I will need a winch on this pickup like I need goat crap on my tuna sandwich. My days of playing in the mud and winching are long over.

I remember the very last trip with the 4WD club. It was 10F - we kept breaking thru the ice and the "puddles" were about foot and a half deep. Muddy water was freezing on everything. You could just barely see the winch line on your winch thru the frozen muddy water. Mud & muddy water was freezing on all your clothing and gloves. God - was that a lot of fun - - NOT. The summer runs were like a trip in paradise.

I'm not **** about a vehicles exterior shine and polish. However - the engine and running gear is my pride and joy. I've yet to see a vehicle get thru a mud bog because the owner did a "shine & polish" the day prior to a run.I didn't ask - this time for a color choice. I knew there were going to be only two power wagons available - red & blue. I've come into a dealer before with a nice smear of wet mud on a bright white sheet of paper. Put it down on the salesman's desk and said - "this is the color I'm looking for". They think I'm kidding. They see the light the first time I bring it in for routine service. Dry mud on a shiny black Jeep is such a visceral display.

Anyhow - I will post pictures when the vehicle is in my hot, sweaty hands.Now, back to my review of the eight pages of detailed enhancements to this vehicle.Again - thanks to ZTMan for the link. It worked perfectly.

 

[hawkeye08]

Congrats Oosik on the new truck..

 

[coobie]

You made a good choice.My 2016 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 engine has been flawless so far 41,000 miles on the OD.

 

[oosik]

Well - I'm done with the eight pages of items listed for the PW. Only nine items that will need further explaining. Gotta admit - that link that ZTMan showed goes to a sight that lists EVERYTHING on a vehicle. The window sticker only hits the high points.

That's a beautiful vehicle there, coobie. Your picture makes me chuckle. I've had to rearrange the vehicles in my carport. The Jeep was in the largest stall. Now that stall will be for the PW. WoW - I enlarged the picture of your truck, coobie. That's a lot of chrome up front. You either ride a Harley Davidson or are an excellent candidate for one.

It's been 14 years since I bought a new vehicle. I wonder, will I get a 175 page Owners Manual. The last few years - everything I buy has a small note in the box with a web address. Go to the web site - there is pdf - Owners Manual.

No, I bought the Kubota nine years ago and I got an actual manual. I DID download and print an additional manual. The original was getting so many greasy finger prints, smudges, globs everywhere on it. Had to lay a paper towel on the table to set the manual on.

Waiting is the pits. This is ALMOST as bad as waiting for the new tractor in 2009. I need another cup of coffee............

At least this won't be like my new tractor delivery. It came on a tilt bed type truck. The driver was unfamiliar with my driveway conditions. He called me from the entrance - "come and get it". Rode the ATV down the driveway to the tractor. Stuck the ATV in the tractor bucket, held there with a couple nylon straps. Home we came -

 

[Like Tractors]

oosik, would you have chosen the diesel engine if not for the emission system problems that those bring? All of my vehicles are diesel, 7.3L to be specific, the thought of replacing them with the current diesel pick ups doesn't give me a warm feeling at all. I test and repair those things, the emission systems had to be designed in **** and brought to us at the hands of the devil. I tell my customers that are buying new diesel trucks, "buy what ever brand you like, then trade it off before the warranty is out".