Road closed / opened

[Michael Aos]

You are absolutely correct.

Everybody on the property is trespassing, including you. I can't see where you have authority to enforce trail location on someone else's property.

 

[newbury]

My house backs up to ~17 acres of "open space". Think of it as a vacant lot.

There is an established path / road through it for utilities access. People walk their dogs, ride motorcycles / ATV's, jog, etc.

It so happens my house is right at the apex of a turn. Lately, folks have been blasting through it on their mufflerless ATV's and motorcycles doing "hole shots" or whatever. Crazy loud. Makes it unpleasant to be in my backyard.

I used my BX2370, Land Pride GS1548 and Ratchet Rake to carve out a new path. Used the PD10 post-hole digger to sink several 4x6 landscape timbers around the area and posted a bunch of signs designating the old path unavailable.

Has been working out well. Folks are / were using the new trail.

I noticed last week, someone had dumped a bunch of concrete "stumps" (broken fence supports) all along my new trail. Not really unusual, so I just pushed them into a pile out of the way.

I noticed yesterday someone had pulled up the landscape timber to re-open the road and used that concrete to close the new trail.

Now I'm trying to figure out the appropriate reponse.
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Sorry, but it reads like you trespassed and put up structure on someone else's land without permission to prevent others from disturbing you. And you might have made it more difficult for the public utilities to perform their mission. Try and get permission from the landowner (and the utilities) to modify his land. Record the noise, with video if possible and complain to the local law enforcement.

I had a bunch of yahoos on ATV's using a high power line ROW which dissects my land behind my house as a shortcut between paved roads. Until I started shooting my 12 gauge across it. For some reason they stopped. But that was all on my land. And when I checked with the utilities that "own" the ROW they said I could do virtually anything to it (fence it off, locked gates with keys for them, etc.) as long as they could easily get through when needed. But when I checked into it putting up gates and locks was going to cost a lot more than a box of 12 gauge shells, so I tried the cheap approach.

/edit - note I started my response before the 3 prior posts were made.

 

[Michael Aos]

I specifically did NOT do that. "Useless" is probably not the right word, but the ~20 yards I (tried to) close isn't used by anyone but the ATV's and illegal dumping.

I chase people doing illegal dumping out of there all the time!

you might have made it more difficult for the public utilities to perform their mission.

 

[Michael Aos]

Correct, although "structure" might be a little strong. I put up some sign posts.

I think most people assume it's city property. I've been trying to raise awareness that it's private property.

you trespassed and put up structure on someone else's land without permission to prevent others from disturbing you

 

[the old grind]

Similar happened to 60 ac behind my ten some years ago. The only relief was when someone bought and began using the property. (in hay, now)

I'd start with a well-placed log whose removal slows someone down enough for a trail cam to catch a few frames. It's only info, but such is indisputable where I come from.

Executor have any info regarding plans to sell? Sounds like owning 'all' would be a nightmare due to 'past practice'.

Dealing with "but we always did" at worst may just take a group of self-entitled to age out of a hobby, school district, civilian population, etc ...

Uhh, I guess this isn't post #8. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

 

[Michael Aos]

This is the space I'm referring to:

 

[airbiscuit]

I understand your frustration, but you may be exposing yourself to some liability. If you put up posts, or move concrete and someone gets injured as a result, you will end up paying $$$. Your homeowners insurance isn't going to cover you for what you did on someone else's property.

Put another way, how would you like it if someone blazed trails, put up posts and signs on your property without asking?

Talk to the owner, talk to the authorities and try to find remedy

Otherwise, keep doing what you are doing and assume the risk.

 

[Egon]

Until the owner has given you their permission you would be best off staying right off of the property. You are liable for any injuries someone could incure through your actions.

Investigate if there are any local bylaws that would be to your benefit. If so there are then options that do not involve you.

It's a Sticky Wickett it is.

 

[sandman2234]

That property is going to be hard to keep ATV free, just from the amount of property and the number of houses where an ATV owner could live. You have my utmost concern, as you are in a very similar situation, one that really isn't clear as how to legally proceed. We have fought for years with the owners permission on the most part, and it is a loosing battle. We fight loud obnoxious ATV owners that poach the deer and turkey's at night, build fires along a creek and sit around and get drunk, leaving the fires burning and litter everywhere. The fires scare us the most, due to our proximity to the woods that will burn.
Good luck!
David from jax

 

[boggen]

good chance you most likely have some sort of "noise law".

you really need to hunt down the owner of the property and get permission. to point of need be "rent the property" instead of fully buying it out if that is not an option. renting would give you domain over the area. and let ya do what ya need to do and remove the trails and be able to legally enforce things. and do what you want to do.

with all the homes in picture, their might also be some sort of Home association doing. or city doing. that might help.