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Newish cars are designed to reduce pedestrian fatalities.

This causes deer to slide up the hood vs. being thrown.

Wonder how this works in reality?
 
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Newish cars are designed to reduce pedestrian fatalities.

This causes deer to slide up the hood vs. being thrown.

Wonder how this works in reality?
I've only had one deer collision in 35 years of driving, and it was a case where the deer bounced off the front tire of my pickup truck, apparently zero sheetmetal contact. My wife has hit them in her Audi (x2), Jaguar, and Volvo. One of the two Audi hits was the one I mentioned previously, 70 mph on the NE extension of the turnpike, cresting the ridge that separates the Delaware and Lehigh valleys.

In all cases, the deer managed to stay forward. And as you know better than most, our deer around here tend to be bigger than what I see in other states. So it seems having them ride up the hood must not be as common as it appears it should be.
 
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And the deer blend in quite well until they jump in front of you:
This morning on the dog walk, mom and 2 born last year.
Wakes you up when you're not even out of the driveway and skirting deer.
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Towing luck!
 
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Towing luck!
I guess is brake pull-away was not functional. This is why we have to get our trailers inspected each year, and also why PA requires brakes on ALL axles, not just one.

I had this happen to me once, but in a car. Sugan Road, Solebury... I was a passenger, a buddy was driving. Jumped over a roadside fence from a raised corral, right over the hood of our car.
 
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Grew up where moose was the main thing one didn't want to hit.

Drove a low little sports car, which technically would fit under an average size moose, if barely, so I calculated how fast I'd have to drive to get underneath one before the body would drop about two inches.

What I didn't know was how much downward force hitting a leg would result in, making the moose drop quicker, and most likely I'd hit at least two legs.

For some reason my physics teacher didn't know the answer to my simple question, so I did the only logical thing and drove faster yet.
 
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One never knows. But taking this tangent and running with it, this is one thing I wish we tested for, how drivers react to adverse conditions. It's something they're really testing AI and FSD for quite heavily, scenarios in which wasting one person might save the car from the alternative of killing many.

Personally, put me in a semi truck and then have someone come at me in the wrong lane, and I'll take the head-on collision ten times out of ten, versus driving the rig off the road. Classic physics 101, inelastic collision, momentum holds, and the semi truck wins.

There's no saying this has anything to do with what happened, it's just an interesting thought exercise. What comes to mind is me reminding my wife each time she drives the pickup truck, "don't flip the damn thing trying to avoid a deer, just slow down as much as you can before running it over."
When I went through drivers Ed, if you were scheduled to drive, you drove.

Several times we drove in 6" of snow learning and practicing different techniques including using the E brake to stop in and emergency situation.

The last practical road experience, we drove 40 miles to the city with 4 students and the instructor. Each of us took turns driving on and off the interstate as well as navigating city driving.

The day it was my turn for it, it was snowing

I also took my drivers test in a snow storm. Parellel parking, hill starts, etc... It was either drive at my scheduled appointment or wait 6 more weeks.

So I did it all in 8" of snow.
 
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Few years ago a person from around here, got killed in traffic by hitting a culvert in a ditch hard.
Police suspected the driver (young female) panicked when avoiding roadkill (a fox) and lost control.

Same as sudden traffic stops when an idiot stops without warning with its turn signals: I slam the brakes by muscle memory, then watch my mirror and decide if i can evade, or if theres a car behind me that needs my space as stopping space, or if theres a truck behind me that doesnt slow down and i should save myself... Is there room to get aside to the roadside? I immediately begin scanning the situation to calculate a next move, if necessary.

Once i was not very fit due to an ear infection and lost speed perception somewhat. I realised too late the traffic was at standstill, saw a mom violently gesturing at her 4 year old standing on the rear seat to sit down, realised i would make that child unhappy on this trajectory and yanked my steering wheel to the right, into the guardrail of the exit lane. The scratch i made on someone elses car with my left hand mirror buffed out, and on the right side i needed one front panel and two doors from the wreckyard.

Needless to say, after exchanging contact data with the lady whose fender i touched lightly, i went home straight to bed.

Its a matter of how male brains are wired vs men: Evolutionary, men are wired to face danger and women to avoid that. I guess thats the reason why women panic, and i just get calm and quickly evaluate my options... Its amazing how calm you can be in a car crash. Just tend to make other people angry when i make a dark joke about it when i get out

I once shut two halls of the steel construction company down by triggering the industrial grade residual current breaker by poking my finger in a fuse hole while replacing the fuse on a ladder, so i couldnt see the hole properly.
When the chief came out to see why the shop was shut down and i told him laughing that 63A 400V tickled, he yelled "why are you laughing, you could have been dead !" I replied, still laughing "yet here i am, glad that i -can- laugh ! With a sore arm..." he decided to cool down in his office for 5 minutes
My wife handled a dilemma the other way really well.

She was coming home on the interstate during a snow storm.

She crested a hill and had 6 vehicles stopped as well as a big rig in her lane.

They had wrecked and hadn't moved from the travel lanes.

She left off the gas and eased over. She hugged as close as she dared to the tractor trailer passing her in the lane next to her.

The tractor trailer did hug over giving her extra room.

So she squeaked past the vehicles with out wrecking and as soon as the tractor trailer passed her, she eased into that lane.
 
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Newish cars are designed to reduce pedestrian fatalities.

This causes deer to slide up the hood vs. being thrown.

Wonder how this works in reality?
I've had a moose slide up my hood and had it's booty smeared against the glass

My thought at the time is "Lord!!! This is a sh$"ty way to go!!!"

Thankfully I had gotten the truck slowed down enough that all it did was track the glass and cave in my hood.

After witnessing the after effects of a moose landing in the back seat of a Ford escort wagon, I would much rather bock a deer down versus having it come up the hood at the glass.
 
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I'm just remembering now, the time my brother hit an elk in his Jeep Wrangler. Telluride Colorado, he comes over the crest of a hill in the snow, and there's an elk standing in the middle of the road. He hit the brakes, and did a slow slide into the elk, and hit it probably doing 10 mph.

The elk stumbled back a bit never losing its footing, looked at him like "why'd you hit me, you a$$?", and trotted off into the woods. :ROFLMAO:

So, my brother puts the Wrangler back in gear, starts driving, and hears this rubbing noise coming from the front right. So he gets out to check, and his front bumper is folded back hard against the tire. The elk fared better than his Jeep!
 
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I had a colleague who had an 81 chrysler... dont remember, it was **** brown and the 5.9 put out only 180hp he said.

Anyways, he saw a hare, heard a thunk, got out, walked around and saw nothing. Went home with friends, drank one last beer at home after a night out with friends. When the first went home, the automatic sensor light at the house switched on. Then he saw a hare hung up with its head in the grille right under the bumper, feet dragging the street...
 
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I'm just remembering now, the time my brother hit an elk in his Jeep Wrangler. Telluride Colorado, he comes over the crest of a hill in the snow, and there's an elk standing in the middle of the road. He hit the brakes, and did a slow slide into the elk, and hit it probably doing 10 mph.

The elk stumbled back a bit never losing its footing, looked at him like "why'd you hit me, you a$$?", and trotted off into the woods. :ROFLMAO:

So, my brother puts the Wrangler back in gear, starts driving, and hears this rubbing noise coming from the front right. So he gets out to check, and his front bumper is folded back hard against the tire. The elk fared better than his Jeep!
Elk are so dang tall, it would probably end up in the cab if he was going much faster. But then we have the Roosevelt elk out here, a fair bit larger and taller than they are back your way.
 
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Elk are so dang tall, it would probably end up in the cab if he was going much faster.
Ah yes, you guys have elk and deer.

We have roes and deer. Roes being like pygmee goats on long legs. Our deer subspecies is smaller too, than the North American Wapiti deer...

Roes usually just cost you a headlight or grille. Deer can end up in the rear seat if hit hard enough.
 
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Newish cars are designed to reduce pedestrian fatalities.
Benz designed their three spoke star hood ornament used in the 50s to 80s to fold back flat easily, to prevent pedestrian injuries.
 
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We have roes and deer. Roes being like pygmee goats on long legs. Our deer subspecies is smaller too, than the North American Wapiti deer...
Google can be a misleading little devil, as searches of deer weight in Germany keep turning up 300 lb. numbers for mature stag. But every deer I ever saw in Germany was tiny, like the size of our fawns at full maturity, probably under 80 lb.

Across PA bucks average around 120 - 130 lb. field dressed, meaning roughly 150-160 lb. live weight. But reported live weights of 200 - 250 lb. are not uncommon, and in traveling the state a lot over the years, the deer I see in the northern Philly 'burbs up thru the Poconos seem to trend toward the larger end of the scale.
 
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