TYM 474 Owner
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I am not able to.
tacticalturnip
Elite Member
I have a Kioti, so I'm not familiar with TYM, but if you work it very carefully can you finesse it enough to do two functions together?
stoyan79
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I can do it on my 4820, but was a lot easier on my Kubota. Loader is a lot faster and overall functions better on my old Kubota.
Torvy
Super Member
Haha...except if you want to lift a heavy load. Kubota have much lower lift capacities than the equivalent sized tractors in many other brands.
stoyan79
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Very strange deal, Kubota lifts 1,000lbs less, BUT loader is so much faster! Wish I knew why ...
ptsg
Super Member
Smaller cylinders and different loader geometry can make it faster at the expense of lifting capacity.
CloverKnollFarms
Elite Member
Smaller dia cylinder would do both
jyoutz
Super Member
Many other brands advertise heavy lift capacity, but the tractor weight isn’t commensurate with the advertised lift capacity. What the loader hydraulics can lift seems to be unsafe for the light weight of the machine. My MX will lift just under 2400 pounds, but one ton feels pretty heavy for the machine weight. I wouldn’t want to lift more on that size/weight machine. Yet I see other brands of comparable machine weight advertising a lift capacity of 2700 pounds. There’s hydraulic lift capacity and safe handling capacity. I wouldn’t want to lift more than my MX capacity unless the tractor weighed significantly more. And yes I have filled rear tires and at least 1000 pounds of 3ph ballast when I’m lifting anything heavy with the loader.
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Slowpoke Slim
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I think part of the issue is a "cultural" one. The south korean brands aren't into being nannies and nurse maids like the us brands tend to be. I think part of that is cultural based, and part of it is they just don't think about the general public being "sue happy" like the us brands are used to dealing with.
So if you're a complete "doorknob" (clean version) type operator, you can get yourself (and your tractor) into way more trouble with a korean tractor, because they are less interested in having this nanny "safety net" under you. They actually consider the operator will actually know what they are doing and NOT try to lift an unsafe load. That "unsafe" can come in many forms, like no or not enough ballast weight, lifting too high for no reason, lifting heavy on uneven ground. Lots of factors can take a "safe" load, and make it suddenly "unsafe".
Where as the us brands are well and truly used to being sued for anything from a hangnail while steering, to being sued for not warning the operator to not drink the battery acid.
Where as the south korean companies are used to dealing with (korean) operators of equipment that will actually know what the hell they are doing, and how to do it safely. Sometimes that is good, and sometimes that can end badly, especially with a brand new tractor owner/operator.
But if someone is fully committed to breaking their tractor, they will. You can take a brand new (any brand) tractor and break it with 0.1 hours on the meter if you really try.
My 4200 lb bare frame (7000 lb dressed out) tractor is rated for 2200 lbs at the pins. I've had 1600-1800 lbs on the 4' forks, or a 6' round bale on the bale spear, and that's really all it wants. I didn't lift any of those loads any higher than necessary, and not on uneven ground. I also had filled rears and a rear ballast weight on when I did it. If I had tried hard enough (no ballast, no filled rears), I'm sure I could have broken my front axle. But since I WASN'T a complete "doorknob" (again, clean version) I didn't do that.
So if you're a complete "doorknob" (clean version) type operator, you can get yourself (and your tractor) into way more trouble with a korean tractor, because they are less interested in having this nanny "safety net" under you. They actually consider the operator will actually know what they are doing and NOT try to lift an unsafe load. That "unsafe" can come in many forms, like no or not enough ballast weight, lifting too high for no reason, lifting heavy on uneven ground. Lots of factors can take a "safe" load, and make it suddenly "unsafe".
Where as the us brands are well and truly used to being sued for anything from a hangnail while steering, to being sued for not warning the operator to not drink the battery acid.
Where as the south korean companies are used to dealing with (korean) operators of equipment that will actually know what the hell they are doing, and how to do it safely. Sometimes that is good, and sometimes that can end badly, especially with a brand new tractor owner/operator.
But if someone is fully committed to breaking their tractor, they will. You can take a brand new (any brand) tractor and break it with 0.1 hours on the meter if you really try.
My 4200 lb bare frame (7000 lb dressed out) tractor is rated for 2200 lbs at the pins. I've had 1600-1800 lbs on the 4' forks, or a 6' round bale on the bale spear, and that's really all it wants. I didn't lift any of those loads any higher than necessary, and not on uneven ground. I also had filled rears and a rear ballast weight on when I did it. If I had tried hard enough (no ballast, no filled rears), I'm sure I could have broken my front axle. But since I WASN'T a complete "doorknob" (again, clean version) I didn't do that.
jyoutz
Super Member
I think that you and I are saying the same things. You know the limits of safely operating your machine. Many brands advertise lift capacity that is higher than what is prudent for the weight of the machine as an advertising draw. But in reality exceeds the safety limits. Real world performance may vary….
