bill in ny
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does that mower have conditioning rolls or flails with it ?
Want to get into haying - need some advice.
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Dano1124
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Living in Mid Central Mo. you see a lot of green paint...
I had a hard time looking at the prices...so I took a look at NH and Massey...
I ended up with a Kubota M9540 MFWD...got one with all the bells and wistles...41K 2008model.
Running a NH 9' disk mower (2009), 10 wheel rake and two balers...NH 851 chain round and NH hayliner 273 square...the balers are older but have been serviced and shedded.
Looking at doing @ 500ac this year I hope...
I'm also looking at buying a "grapalator" for the loader...labor is hard to find and expensive...gets pretty hot in Mo. and I don't really want to be in the field hummping squares if you know what I mean.
Rounds are so much eaiser but I get less money per ton for them. I don't sell by the ton but when you do the math...when you know what I mean.
I had a hard time looking at the prices...so I took a look at NH and Massey...
I ended up with a Kubota M9540 MFWD...got one with all the bells and wistles...41K 2008model.
Running a NH 9' disk mower (2009), 10 wheel rake and two balers...NH 851 chain round and NH hayliner 273 square...the balers are older but have been serviced and shedded.
Looking at doing @ 500ac this year I hope...
I'm also looking at buying a "grapalator" for the loader...labor is hard to find and expensive...gets pretty hot in Mo. and I don't really want to be in the field hummping squares if you know what I mean.
Rounds are so much eaiser but I get less money per ton for them. I don't sell by the ton but when you do the math...when you know what I mean.
Robert_in_NY
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Dan, did you mean you were looking at doing 50 acres or 500 acres? 50 acres you can do fine. 500 acres and you are way undersized equipment wise. Good luck to you though.
Is he way undersized as far as balers are concerned or is he undersized in his rake and mower too?
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His equipment will allow him to handle 100 acres in a timely fashion. 500 acres and he will want either multiple cutters or a self propelled cutter, 4 balers (if small squares), 2 NH self propelled stack wagons and a huge hay barn in or near the fields. With a 9' cutter you can cut 20-25 acres a day, 500 acres would mean you would need to cut 20 days straight, and have multiple tractors and helpers to be raking and baling behind you. This is if you want to have good hay and have great weather working with you. Toss a few rain days in there and you will be in a lot of trouble.
500 acres is a lot of acres to hay and I wouldn't even begin to try it with an old, small used baler, one tractor and a 9' cutter. Heck, that equipment is borderline for 100 acres if your doing small squares and have to handle them all with just one tractor.
500 acres is a lot of acres to hay and I wouldn't even begin to try it with an old, small used baler, one tractor and a 9' cutter. Heck, that equipment is borderline for 100 acres if your doing small squares and have to handle them all with just one tractor.
I can cut about 50 acres in 10 hours with my 9' disc mower. It was about the same for me raking last year with my old side delivery rake. I did close to 80 acres last year (some some places once, some 2-3 times) with quite a bit less than what he has. I did have a lot of breakdowns but i was able to fix them all in the field and get going quick. It would be nice to have newer and bigger equipment but for now i just have to make do with what i have. It get's the job done and does a good job of it 
I'm probably going to do about twice as much this year with most of the same equipment. The only thing i'm upgrading is the rake.
I'm probably going to do about twice as much this year with most of the same equipment. The only thing i'm upgrading is the rake.Dano1124
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Nope...just a regular disk mower...
H6750
Your tractor looks like the one I have can't see the pic too well.
We have a haybine 7 foot cut but it was slow going in thick stuff...clogs and all. I picked up the NH locally and got a great rate on the note 1.4% for 3 years...almost free money... I did put down 20%.
H6750
Your tractor looks like the one I have can't see the pic too well.
We have a haybine 7 foot cut but it was slow going in thick stuff...clogs and all. I picked up the NH locally and got a great rate on the note 1.4% for 3 years...almost free money...
I did put down 20%.Dano1124
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Thanks for all the advice...I'm just starting out and the more information I get the better I will be.
The 500 ac is wishfull thinking....I have 70 of my own and 120 of a partner in crime. We have a few 10 ac spots and one 100 ac place we think we are going to get.
My buddy has a 55 HP tractor that we can rake with and to mow faster we will use his haybine along with my disk...we rake right in front of the big baler...
I was supprised at how fast the round baler picked it up and spit it out last year... we did about 110 AC...
My tractor and disk mower are new to us this year...so this is why I was looking to get more done this year.
I'll let you know how we make out and the number of bales put up.
The 500 ac is wishfull thinking....I have 70 of my own and 120 of a partner in crime. We have a few 10 ac spots and one 100 ac place we think we are going to get.
My buddy has a 55 HP tractor that we can rake with and to mow faster we will use his haybine along with my disk...we rake right in front of the big baler...
I was supprised at how fast the round baler picked it up and spit it out last year... we did about 110 AC...
My tractor and disk mower are new to us this year...so this is why I was looking to get more done this year.
I'll let you know how we make out and the number of bales put up.
Robert_in_NY
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I can cut about 50 acres in 10 hours with my 9' disc mower. It was about the same for me raking last year with my old side delivery rake. I did close to 80 acres last year (some some places once, some 2-3 times) with quite a bit less than what he has. I did have a lot of breakdowns but i was able to fix them all in the field and get going quick. It would be nice to have newer and bigger equipment but for now i just have to make do with what i have. It get's the job done and does a good job of it
What size fields are you cutting? That is something I didn't take into account. My fields are mostly less then 10 acres so I am doing a lot of turning and moving. If I had large open fields I would be able to cut more per day.
I would still not attempt to bale anywhere near 500 acres with that old and small of a baler. If he is putting most of it in rounds it will help or if the small square baler breaks down and he has a market he can finish the fields in rounds while the small square baler is being fixed. I just see a huge bottle neck in his operation handling the hay. If he is going to have to cut all day and bale all day when is he suppose to put the hay in the barn?
That's a good point. My fields are anywhere from 7 acres to 40 acres each. When i had my 12' discbine i did a 40 acre field in 4 1/2 hours. At last year's prices it cost me $45 in diesel for that 4 1/2 hours though
