chain/binders

[Hematite]

got about 7000 miles todate like this

I presume that you took this picture before you also chained down the FEL bucket?

 

[workinallthetime]

May not matter to the cops where you live, but strictly speaking, shouldn't that hook be on the inside of the stake pocket?

Rusty

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drop through and wrap around, chain can not come unhooked like this if thats what your talking about

hematite,
I presume that you took this picture before you also chained down the FEL bucket?

nope dont chain down fel, tractor is to lite to fall into dot regs around here for that. Tractor cant move, so why chain down bucket? The bucket is flat on the floor with no pressure on it, have no problems with a bouncing bucket so I just dont see the point do you?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

interesting tires on the trailer, load range?

The tires are 305 7016 load range D. Rated to carry 2910lbs each.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

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drop through and wrap around, chain can not come unhooked like this if thats what your talking about

Sorry - looks like you are good after all. I was given a hard time once about nothing allowed to protrude farther out than stake pocket. Cop made me change all hooks to inside stake pocket (chain & hook entering from below and chain kept flat against side of trailer). Probably just one odd cop with his own interpretation of the rules.

Rusty

 

[SpringHollow]

I have had them tell me they should be done as he shows but on the front or back sides of the pocket. This might come from the trailers that have a protective rail surrounding the pockets.

Ken

 

[Secret Squirrel]

I have had them tell me they should be done as he shows but on the front or back sides of the pocket. This might come from the trailers that have a protective rail surrounding the pockets.

Ken

I recall the rule cited at the time did somehow relate to protective rails. Since my trailer at the time had no protective rails, it became a matter of the cop's interpretation of the rule's intent.

Rusty

 

[LoneCowboy]

May not matter to the cops where you live, but strictly speaking, shouldn't that hook be on the inside of the stake pocket?

Rusty

In Canada yes, it must be inside
In USA No, doesn't matter.

 

[LoneCowboy]

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nope dont chain down fel, tractor is to lite to fall into dot regs around here for that. Tractor cant move, so why chain down bucket? The bucket is flat on the floor with no pressure on it, have no problems with a bouncing bucket so I just dont see the point do you?

Nope, you're not doing it right.
Anything that isn't held in place mechanically (a pin for instance) must be chained to the floor of the trailer. A FEL or a backhoe is the perfect example.
Hydraulics alone isn't enough.
It must be held in place horizontally and vertically.

I agree, it's stupid, but that's the rule.


Typically you can get one over the bucket than thru the frame of the tractor in one chain piece. Not always, but sometimes. (works real well with SS's)

 

[Secret Squirrel]

In Canada yes, it must be inside
In USA No, doesn't matter.

This made me chuckle because when I tried to check it out this morning, I came to the opposite conclusion.

I give up!

Rusty

 

[Secret Squirrel]

In Canada yes, it must be inside
In USA No, doesn't matter.

This made me chuckle because when I tried to check it out this morning, I came to the opposite conclusion.

I give up!

Rusty

I should further explain what I posted last night. Yesterday, I found the following sketch on an official Canadian website.

Test Method 905 - Trailer Cargo Anchoring Devices - Motor Vehicle Safety Standards - Safe Vehicles - Road & Motor Vehicle Safety - Road Transportation - Transport Canada

While not part of any Canadian tie-down rule that I could find, it does suggest that the Canadian government would tolerate this configuration if it tests this way.

On the other hand, US DOT rules are not clear on this point. First cop reads it and says no protective rail so no problem. Next cop reads same rule and sees "intent". You can't win. Smile and do what the cop says.

Rusty