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[two_bit_score]

No, it has not been any problems, as far as I know.
But it's not a big surprise that heat pumps don't work well at very low temperatures and that will make range shorter.
But again, Norway is not that cold but here I live -20 celsius and below is common tempratur in periods and those EVs seems to work just fine.

Thank you!

 

[Gregster613]

Agvg, I second what two_bit_score said -- Thanks for the info on what is driven in Norway! Was very interesting to learn that.

 

[Agvg]

Agvg, I second what two_bit_score said -- Thanks for the info on what is driven in Norway! Was very interesting to learn that.

Top ten in 2021

 

[Agvg]

Top ten car manufacturers in 2021

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

A coworker has a Tesla here. The only thing he said about the cold was that it limited range. He said that when they drove it to the cities, (that's from Bismarck, ND to Minneapolis, MN) it barely made it between places to charge. He said he was nervous about it the whole time, but "they made it".

In the summer time, he doesn't have any issues on the same trip.

 

[Gregster613]

yeah Slowpoke Slim, I'm originally from Northern Mn. (Kettle River) and you folks get some serious cold weather in the winters! I'm glad that they have at least some charging stations built, that's about a 2 hour dive one-way for you.

 

[Oaktree]

Solar Trailer Added To Tesla Model 3 (Video) - CleanTechnica

Sean Callaghan from ItsYeBoi on YouTube has demonstrated that charging a Model 3 with a solar trailer is possible.

cleantechnica.com

Tesla had a similar prototype in the technology show in Germany.

I didn't watch the video, but did skim the article. Seems like on a 1-10 scale of practicality this ranks about a 2, kind of like the wood powered truck featured many years ago in Mother Earth News.

 

[Tinhack]

But again, Norway is not that cold but here I live -20 celsius and below is common tempratur in periods and those EVs seems to work just fine.

Norway is not that large either. The longest road is ~280 miles. The top speed limit is 68mph and has only two lanes. Most of the roads are single lane. The US has about 41,000 miles of 4,6 and 8-lane Interstate Highways with speeds limits up to 80mph. The total road system in the US is over 4-Million miles. It's not uncommon to drive for eight hours and still be in the same state (Texas). When folks of other nations brag about alternative transportation methods, they have no idea of the scale differences.

Here's an example of a single state in the US.

 

[Agvg]

Norway is not that large either. The longest road is ~280 miles. The top speed limit is 68mph and has only two lanes. Most of the roads are single lane. The US has about 41,000 miles of 4,6 and 8-lane Interstate Highways with speeds limits up to 80mph. The total road system in the US is over 4-Million miles. It's not uncommon to drive for eight hours and still be in the same state (Texas). When folks of other nations brag about alternative transportation methods, they have no idea of the scale differences.

Here's an example of a single state in the US.

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Oh, Europe are bigger than the US main land, most Americans only counts western part of Europe.

In terms of size the two are almost even, with Europe only slightly bigger than the US (10.2 million sq km vs 9.8 million sq km)



280 miles? Really? I drive longer than that to vist my mother-in-law.

Driving across Norway south to the Russian border is a distance of ca 3200km, 1980 miles, of course distances are greater in the US. But this is not particularly relevant to the day to day use for most drivers.

 

[Tinhack]

In terms of size the two are almost even, with Europe only slightly bigger than the US (10.2 million sq km vs 9.8 million sq km)

That's misleading. If you're going to quote, quote the entire excerpt.

In terms of size the two are almost even, with Europe only slightly bigger than the US (10.2 million sq km vs 9.8 million sq km) but this includes large parts of Russia. The EU, which many people think of as Europe, has a population of 510 million people, in an area half the size of the US (4.3 million sq km).

 

[Tinhack]

280 miles? Really? I drive longer than that to vist my mother-in-law.

That was the longest stretch of a single highway I could find. There are more but that was listed as the longest.

 

[Agvg]

That's misleading. If you're going to quote, quote the entire excerpt.

In terms of size the two are almost even, with Europe only slightly bigger than the US (10.2 million sq km vs 9.8 million sq km) but this includes large parts of Russia. The EU, which many people think of as Europe, has a population of 510 million people, in an area half the size of the US (4.3 million sq km).

Russia is a part of Europe, has been for centuries and I did believe that was obvious.

 

[Agvg]

But most of Russia are in Asia.

For those who are interested

Map of European Russia - Nations Online Project

European Russia map with international borders, rivers and lakes, the national capital, district capitals, major cities, main roads, railroads, major airports (with IATA Codes) and major geographic features such as the Ural Mountains, the Ural River, the Black Sea, the Caucasus mountains and the...

www.nationsonline.org

 

[goeduck]

Here is an accurate map of Texas.

 

[California]

Driving across Norway south to the Russian border is a distance of ca 3200km, 1980 miles, of course distances are greater in the US. But this is not particularly relevant to the day to day use for most drivers.

[Corrected!] Driving north to south, the length of California, a single state, is about half that. We're one of the larger states. And like you note it is rare for a local to make that particular trip - maybe a tourist. Commercial trucker, not so rare, lots of farm produce from Mexico is trucked north.

I think American's ignorance of European Russia is a Cold War relic. The 'Iron Curtain' was a barrier to communication and understanding for a couple of generations. Like how North Korea is not well understood now.

Prior to 1917, things like American author/humorist Mark Twain visiting Tsarist Russia weren't seen as unusual, just one more European point on his tour. (Read his humor about dressing for extreme cold then being miserable at a fancy winter party in a too-hot ballroom ).

 

[ning]

That's identical to driving the north/south length of California. We're one of the larger states. And like you note is it is extremely rare for an individual to make that particular trip. Commercial trucker, not so rare, lots of farm produce from Mexico is trucked north.

I think American's ignorance of European Russia is a Cold War relic. The 'Iron Curtain' was a barrier to communication and understanding for a couple of generations. Like how North Korea is not well understood now.

Prior to 1917, things like American author/humorist Mark Twain presenting his lectures in Tsarist Russia weren't seen as unusual, just one more European point on his lecture tour. (Read his humor about dressing for extreme cold then being miserable at a fancy party in a too-hot Moscow ballroom ).

California is about 700mi north to south, with a trip from Tijuana to Ashland Oregon (a few miles into Oregon on the most direct route if I-5) being about 800 miles by road.

Even going from tj to Vancouver BC is less than 1400 miles.

 

[California]

California is about 700mi north to south, with a trip from Tijuana to Ashland Oregon (a few miles into Oregon on the most direct route if I-5) being about 800 miles by road.

Even going from tj to Vancouver BC is less than 1400 miles.

You're right, It's 1,000 miles for the extremes of Smith River down to Winterhaven. Not 2k. (It just seemed like that when I had to visit construction sites all over the state.) I'll edit my post.

 

[two_bit_score]

Oh, Europe are bigger than the US main land, most Americans only counts western part of Europe.

In terms of size the two are almost even, with Europe only slightly bigger than the US (10.2 million sq km vs 9.8 million sq km)



280 miles? Really? I drive longer than that to vist my mother-in-law.

Driving across Norway south to the Russian border is a distance of ca 3200km, 1980 miles, of course distances are greater in the US. But this is not particularly relevant to the day to day use for most drivers.

A continent vs a single country.

 

[duramaxsky]

California is about 700mi north to south, with a trip from Tijuana to Ashland Oregon (a few miles into Oregon on the most direct route if I-5) being about 800 miles by road.

Even going from tj to Vancouver BC is less than 1400 miles.

Yeah I was thinking that has to be wrong. It's around 1200 from my place near Seattle to where my sister used to live near San Diego.

 

[Oaktree]

Russia is a part of Europe, has been for centuries and I did believe that was obvious.

Not obvious at all. I never understood why Europe is considered a separate continent from Asia. From what I've read it's more cultural than geographic.