1 Ton Dump Truck for Personal Use

[amigauser]

Looks like CT adopted the federal regs.
DMV: U.S. DOT Number Assignment for Intrastate Carriers

License types in CT.
DMV: New Classification of Licenses

Info PDF file.
http://www.ct.gov/dmv/LIB/dmv/20/29/mch.pdf

Like someone else mentioned - 10,001 is the magic number for interstate and 18,001 for intrastate in CT. Below that and you are good. I see a lot of trucks advertised here less than 26,000 but even then the 18,001 number would kick in.

 

[Wis Bang]

Looks like CT adopted the federal regs.
DMV: U.S. DOT Number Assignment for Intrastate Carriers

License types in CT.
DMV: New Classification of Licenses

Info PDF file.
http://www.ct.gov/dmv/LIB/dmv/20/29/mch.pdf

Like someone else mentioned - 10,001 is the magic number for interstate and 18,001 for intrastate in CT. Below that and you are good. I see a lot of trucks advertised here less than 26,000 but even then the 18,001 number would kick in.

Most states have adopted the Federal regulations 'in toto' though the level of enforcement varies.

I had a boss who thought the exemption for 'delivery' drivers to NJ's seatbelt laws also covered CDL CMV drivers until he was shown the federal regs and then he realized it only covered guys like UPS drivers, milk men, etc. and UPS guys have to follow company policy and use them anyway...

 

[dgl24087]

In VA, USPS contract drivers who drive box trucks are exempt from CDL requirements for weight, air brake endorsements and medical card, as long as the assigned route is not longer than 75 miles from their terminal, i.e. the post office. Also exempt are bulk newspaper delivery drivers, same mileage restriction. My primary vehicle is a Mitsubishi Fuso, 24' box with air over hydraulic brakes, 7.5L diesel , inline 6 with a 6 spd. manual. Out of 12 trucks, 5 are Fuso's, mileage ranging from 150,000 to 500,000 miles, and 7 are International 4300 (3) and 4700's (4). The 4700's (all Allisons) have 120,000 to 170,000 miles and spend a significant amount of time in the shop. Problems have ranged from leaking rear axles, 3 transmission failures, to one blown engine. The 4300's have been good trucks so far, 1 is an Allison, the other two are manuals (1 Eaton Fuller 6 spd. and 1 Eaton Fuller 7 spd.). All of the Internationals have DT466's. None of the Fuso's have had any significant issues, 4 are 6 spd. manuals and 1 is an Allison AT. The Fuso in my avatar consistently gets 11-13 mpg's regardless of load or driver. The Internationals get about 7-8 mpgs.

 

[DMF]

so it only need the yearly $29 MA safety inpsection.

I think you're going to find that the $29 inspection fee goes up to $100 per year for 10K GVW since the change in laws this past October... Good luck!

 

[jimmysisson]

A friend just had his 12K trailer inspected (Mass.). Trailer is a couple years old and he's meticulous. MA $29 inspection fee, + $75 for an "hour" (12 minutes actual) to check for rust, bad brakes, breakaway, chains, etc. The hour charge is the default minimum. They're supposed to pull each brake for visual inspection, check all lights, etc. Not too bad a price if inspector is thorough, but annoying if he assumes all's well. This inspector assumed.
When I was a kid I hoped the inspectors would be lazy or lenient. Now I want them to be careful and look at everything. Sometimes you want someone else's eyes on stuff you get used to seeing all the time.
Jim

 

[Diamondpilot]

Glad I do not live on the East Coast for many reasons but the inspection thing is just a money making gimmick!

Chris

 

[dan6399]

in mass you can register a 1 ton as a personal vehicle just dont letter it,one ton dump is no different than a 1 ton pick up and being in ma myself i have seen a lot of 1 ton dumps,people haVE no money to keep them

I have a GMC 3500 Pickup. I had the dealership register it with passenger plates when I bought it two years ago. I get pulled over a month ago and the cop tells me that it needs to be commercal plates. I did some research and all trucks with more than 4 wheels on the ground and over 10,000 gvw needs to be commercial. It costs about $190 every year for registration as well as $130 for a inspection sticker. I live in and got pulled over in Plymouth Massachuasetts. Hope this helps.

 

[Builder]

Glad I do not live on the East Coast for many reasons but the inspection thing is just a money making gimmick!

Chris

I'm glad I live on the east coast for a lot of reasons and one is vehicle safety inspections.

90% of owner operators of large trucks & trailers are safety concious, responsible people. The other 10% are too cheap or stupid to check their brakes, suspensions & steering for wear or too dumb to know how. The safety inspection program is a safety net to keep the 10% from taking out innocent people in crashes. I was witness to one. Horrific scene to say the least.

Buddy of mine is an inspection mechanic for a fleet of steel company trucks and does a lot of work on the side on my trucks & equipment, too. I have personally seen an old Dodge stakebody brought in with bailing wire holding the steering tie rods together. When i bought my 4800 from a dealer in Tennessee, the front airbrakes were actually disconnected.

Yes, it's a hassle to deal with, but it keeps the roads safer. My state has no diesel emmissions inspections, so that makes life easier compared to other states that do.

 

[atgreene]

The truck has to be registered for the maximum weight, including trailer, for which it may haul.

When you reg it you will see that it is expensive. You also need a state DOT # for over 10k lbs. They sometimes do not ask you for this when you reg, but the nice DOT Commercial Vehicle Enforcement man will ask you why you don't have one when he does a force roadside inspection and sets it on the scales just before he writes you a ticket.

As for a 1 ton rated at 10k, good luck with that. The truck alone must weigh 9k lbs. Doesn't leave much for payload. You get caught over the weight and you're done for.

Also, insurance, call your insurance co. and let them know what your planning, they may have other thoughts, Geico isn't big on insuring commercial trucks.

Owning a commercial vehicle is expensive, I get customers tell me all the time it seems like a lot of money for delivery charges, they have no idea the constant bills that comes with owning a commercial vehicle.

Good luck.

 

[Builder]

The truck has to be registered for the maximum weight, including trailer, for which it may haul.

When you reg it you will see that it is expensive. You also need a state DOT # for over 10k lbs. They sometimes do not ask you for this when you reg, but the nice DOT Commercial Vehicle Enforcement man will ask you why you don't have one when he does a force roadside inspection and sets it on the scales just before he writes you a ticket.

PA doesn't require a DOT # as long as you stay within the state boundaries. I haven't had one on my IH dump for 5 years- and 15 years of previous big trucks and no issues with the law.

As for a 1 ton rated at 10k, good luck with that. The truck alone must weigh 9k lbs. Doesn't leave much for payload. You get caught over the weight and you're done for.

Mine only weighs 8,000 lbs, but you're right, to tow a trailer, you must register for the truck and trailer combination weight if you plan to tow a trailer.

Also, insurance, call your insurance co. and let them know what your planning, they may have other thoughts, Geico isn't big on insuring commercial trucks.

Owning a commercial vehicle is expensive, I get customers tell me all the time it seems like a lot of money for delivery charges, they have no idea the constant bills that comes with owning a commercial vehicle.

Good luck.

When I got around to registering my vehicles commercially about 15 years ago, I found my rates were essentially the same.

Even now, my '08 Chevy Tahoe costs about $900/yr for coverage and my '07 GMC3500 costs about the same.

I think a lot of the disagreements we see about insurance, registration, inspections, etc that we see are caused by STATES having different laws about vehicles.

Good points you make.