KAB
Gold Member
Alan,
Is this a 1 piece tub shower? Will you be able to get it into the bathroom?
Just asking.
Kurt
Is this a 1 piece tub shower? Will you be able to get it into the bathroom?
Just asking.
Kurt
Al B's House rework
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AlanB
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Sometimes, you just ain't gonna believe this stuff. So they brought tub # 4 in this afternoon, they had just dropped it off when I got there, Hanna had just got done looking it over, and getting back on the phone with the supply house, as this one is cracked as well.........
Yep Rox, at some point I am going to cry.
They are bringing #5 out tomorrow, tomorrow, there is always tomorrow......
KAB, it will fit when I remove one of the studs, and we have to pull the door off the front of the house so it fits.
Hey, I did not measure this thing,,,
Visited at length with Home Despot this evening. Figured out how I SHOULD have fixed my toilet flange problem, after cutting the pipe too short They make a toilet bowl flange to press down inside the cast pipe, I should have just cut it flush with the floor. Oh well, as usual, with my keen 20/20 hindsight, I now know what I should have done.... Wish I had noticed those flanges a bit earlier....
Yep Rox, at some point I am going to cry.
They are bringing #5 out tomorrow, tomorrow, there is always tomorrow......
KAB, it will fit when I remove one of the studs, and we have to pull the door off the front of the house so it fits.
Hey, I did not measure this thing,,,
Visited at length with Home Despot this evening. Figured out how I SHOULD have fixed my toilet flange problem, after cutting the pipe too short
They make a toilet bowl flange to press down inside the cast pipe, I should have just cut it flush with the floor. Oh well, as usual, with my keen 20/20 hindsight, I now know what I should have done.... Wish I had noticed those flanges a bit earlier....KAB
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Have you thought abouut a 3 peice tub/ shower unit? There is one on the market that snaps(far a lack of better words right now)/slides together. A good friend of mine told me about them when I was installing a shower in mt MIL house a couple of years ago. It allowed for some out of squareness also.
I can look for the manufacture later if you might be interested.
Kurt
I can look for the manufacture later if you might be interested.
Kurt
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AlanB
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I like the idea of the one piece, it is as waterproof as it gets,the walls are out at this point anyway so it is not a big deal to put it in. We will just bring the walls to match over the tub so we can work with out of square conditions, but so far, everything has come out pretty well.
At least the last couple have been the supply house's fault / problem.
At least the last couple have been the supply house's fault / problem.
rox
Veteran Member
Alan,
Do the contiued cracks it he tubs concern you a all? Once they get one to you uncracked, do you think it would crack in the future? how royally ticked off would you be in the future if it cracked on you? Something perhaps you ahve not thought about with so much other stuff on your mind. Along about now I think I would be looking at a different manufacturer.
Do the contiued cracks it he tubs concern you a all? Once they get one to you uncracked, do you think it would crack in the future? how royally ticked off would you be in the future if it cracked on you? Something perhaps you ahve not thought about with so much other stuff on your mind. Along about now I think I would be looking at a different manufacturer.
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AlanB
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At some point, we are just on a tremendous run of bad luck when it comes to these things.
#1 We launched out of a trailer
#2 The salesguy wrote LH when he meant to write RH
#3 Had an inclusion in the fiberglass, manufacturers defect, occasionaly gets through.
#4 Was rough handled somewhere along the way, and when Hanna wiped the warehouse grunge off found the crack where it had been mishandled.
4 tubs, 4 different problems.
It will work out, and I have patience as long as it is their dime.
#1 We launched out of a trailer
#2 The salesguy wrote LH when he meant to write RH
#3 Had an inclusion in the fiberglass, manufacturers defect, occasionaly gets through.
#4 Was rough handled somewhere along the way, and when Hanna wiped the warehouse grunge off found the crack where it had been mishandled.
4 tubs, 4 different problems.
It will work out, and I have patience as long as it is their dime.
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AlanB
Elite Member
OK, so today Hanna worked on the house, and I did just a bit.
Got the propane tank filled.
Hanna got in another load of 2/3 stone, and got it spread.
Hanna and Karin got the Kitchen cabinets down.
They second coated the basement walls, and laid down a gallon of epoxy floor coating, about 1/3 the basement floor.
We loaded out about 4 tons of dirt, and got the truck and trailer stuck in the newly spread, very soft driveway. No pictures of that though
The window world guy came out.... Good deal (I hope) but we are getting 12 new windows, trimmed out and two shadow boxes done in vinyl. About $4K. We upgraded the windows to the argon filled, lifetime breakage warranty. Hope it is the right decision, but when I look at the prices at HD and Lowes, I don't want to do it, so away we go. I will be doing the 4 basement windows though.
Man, the cabinets were NASTY,,,,,
Went and looked at a Case 580D extendahoe for $14K today... Just not sure what to do.
Was almost able to drive to the garage today.
Picked up a new AC outside unit pad, and a new capacitor that Mark found bad on it.
So, the questions of the day,,
Mud daubers are around my eaves in HORDES, literally hundreds of them. How do you get rid of mud daubers? I think judging from the house that it is their ancestral home, but I am on an eviction mission. Nothing quite like being in the porta pottie and having a mud dauber land on your face.
Will probably go open a topic on mud daubers so others can maybe offer advice.
Some driveway pics, that would be about 95 tons of 2/3 stone.
Where the kitchen cabinets were.
The dirt pile that we removed from the driveway prep.
The area where the Mowing equipment will go.
Got the propane tank filled.
Hanna got in another load of 2/3 stone, and got it spread.
Hanna and Karin got the Kitchen cabinets down.
They second coated the basement walls, and laid down a gallon of epoxy floor coating, about 1/3 the basement floor.
We loaded out about 4 tons of dirt, and got the truck and trailer stuck in the newly spread, very soft driveway. No pictures of that though
The window world guy came out.... Good deal (I hope) but we are getting 12 new windows, trimmed out and two shadow boxes done in vinyl. About $4K. We upgraded the windows to the argon filled, lifetime breakage warranty. Hope it is the right decision, but when I look at the prices at HD and Lowes, I don't want to do it, so away we go. I will be doing the 4 basement windows though.
Man, the cabinets were NASTY,,,,,
Went and looked at a Case 580D extendahoe for $14K today... Just not sure what to do.
Was almost able to drive to the garage today.
Picked up a new AC outside unit pad, and a new capacitor that Mark found bad on it.
So, the questions of the day,,
Mud daubers are around my eaves in HORDES, literally hundreds of them. How do you get rid of mud daubers? I think judging from the house that it is their ancestral home, but I am on an eviction mission. Nothing quite like being in the porta pottie and having a mud dauber land on your face.
Will probably go open a topic on mud daubers so others can maybe offer advice.
Some driveway pics, that would be about 95 tons of 2/3 stone.
Where the kitchen cabinets were.
The dirt pile that we removed from the driveway prep.
The area where the Mowing equipment will go.
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AlanB
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Oh,,, And the supply house guy called, and Tub #5 that they inspected before putting it on thier truck to bring too us had a problem as well...... Does it count if it does not show up at the house?
EddieWalker
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Alan,
Lots of progress!!!
On the kitchen cabinets. The best deal for you dollars that I've found is the Mills Pride line from Home Depot. You put them together yourself. They come in just about every size you could ever need and the finish on them is far better then any custom cabinets I've come across. I've totally given up on having custom built cabinets and only use the Mills Pride in kitchens I'm paying to redo. If a client wants a different brand, I always mention Mills Pride to them, but will install anything they want. It's there dime, but the end results are not worth the extra money in my opinion.
Your well house issue has me scratching my head. I'm curious about how deep it is and how big the hole is in the ground? Can you take down that really bad looking cinderblock wall? I'd want to cover it, or fill in the hole. If you can cover it and know it wont' cave in over the years, I'd consider that. Ideally, I think you should put a large pipe in there and fill in around it. Something like a 4 to 6 inch pipe down as far as you can get it. Maybe perforate the end for the amount that will be in the water. Then you can run a one inch line, or a pump down the sleeve pipe and pump water for your needs if you need it. While your at it, I'd run the line to your house. Then I'd fill the hole in and cover up everything possible. It's an eyesore and will always be one regardless of how you try to pretty it up.
I don't have any first hand experience with JCB or Case backhoes. A few things I'd stay away from are extedahoes. That's just an additional thing to go wrong and expensive to fix. You won't hardly need it, and if you do, you'll be better off with a trackhoe for that job anyway.
Either one are fine machines. You really need an experienced operator to test run each machine before buying it. There are so many things that can and will go wrong on it that you wouldn't even know what feels right or what is about to fail on your own.
Two things I'd redo if I was buying another backhoe. I'd get 4wd. In mud, it's just about impossible to be productive with a 2wd. You won't have any traction for loading dirt. It's also very difficult to steer them when the tires just slide along in the mud. I can't tell you how many times I've had to use my hoe stick to pull mysefl out of mud that was only a few inches deep, but my tires wouldn't turn in. I just keep sliding in a rut that they created and can't get out.
The other would be a 4 in 1 bucket. You might not need it, but to be able to pick up trees, limbs and debree without adding an attachment is priceless.
These might not matter to you and your needs, but for me, they sure would be worth the extra money.
With used construction equipment, you usualy get what you pay for. Owners of this stuff know what they have, what's wrong with it, and what it will take to fix. If it's too cheap, run away. You want a machine to do work, not to work on.
Sometimes it's allot cheaper to rent one and get the job done then it is to buy one that you are always working on. How much do you need a backhoe? Will you run it hundreds of hours a year? Do the math and figure how many hours a year you would need it. Figure out what it would cost to rent it and then compare that to what you can afford to buy one for. If you buy used, you will be working on it. It's a gurantee. The older it is and the more hours it has just increases the house working on it, versus the hours running it.
Thanks for all the pictures and updates. I'm enjoying your progress alllot.
Eddie
Lots of progress!!!
On the kitchen cabinets. The best deal for you dollars that I've found is the Mills Pride line from Home Depot. You put them together yourself. They come in just about every size you could ever need and the finish on them is far better then any custom cabinets I've come across. I've totally given up on having custom built cabinets and only use the Mills Pride in kitchens I'm paying to redo. If a client wants a different brand, I always mention Mills Pride to them, but will install anything they want. It's there dime, but the end results are not worth the extra money in my opinion.
Your well house issue has me scratching my head. I'm curious about how deep it is and how big the hole is in the ground? Can you take down that really bad looking cinderblock wall? I'd want to cover it, or fill in the hole. If you can cover it and know it wont' cave in over the years, I'd consider that. Ideally, I think you should put a large pipe in there and fill in around it. Something like a 4 to 6 inch pipe down as far as you can get it. Maybe perforate the end for the amount that will be in the water. Then you can run a one inch line, or a pump down the sleeve pipe and pump water for your needs if you need it. While your at it, I'd run the line to your house. Then I'd fill the hole in and cover up everything possible. It's an eyesore and will always be one regardless of how you try to pretty it up.
I don't have any first hand experience with JCB or Case backhoes. A few things I'd stay away from are extedahoes. That's just an additional thing to go wrong and expensive to fix. You won't hardly need it, and if you do, you'll be better off with a trackhoe for that job anyway.
Either one are fine machines. You really need an experienced operator to test run each machine before buying it. There are so many things that can and will go wrong on it that you wouldn't even know what feels right or what is about to fail on your own.
Two things I'd redo if I was buying another backhoe. I'd get 4wd. In mud, it's just about impossible to be productive with a 2wd. You won't have any traction for loading dirt. It's also very difficult to steer them when the tires just slide along in the mud. I can't tell you how many times I've had to use my hoe stick to pull mysefl out of mud that was only a few inches deep, but my tires wouldn't turn in. I just keep sliding in a rut that they created and can't get out.
The other would be a 4 in 1 bucket. You might not need it, but to be able to pick up trees, limbs and debree without adding an attachment is priceless.
These might not matter to you and your needs, but for me, they sure would be worth the extra money.
With used construction equipment, you usualy get what you pay for. Owners of this stuff know what they have, what's wrong with it, and what it will take to fix. If it's too cheap, run away. You want a machine to do work, not to work on.
Sometimes it's allot cheaper to rent one and get the job done then it is to buy one that you are always working on. How much do you need a backhoe? Will you run it hundreds of hours a year? Do the math and figure how many hours a year you would need it. Figure out what it would cost to rent it and then compare that to what you can afford to buy one for. If you buy used, you will be working on it. It's a gurantee. The older it is and the more hours it has just increases the house working on it, versus the hours running it.
Thanks for all the pictures and updates. I'm enjoying your progress alllot.
Eddie
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AlanB
Elite Member
Thanks for the input Eddie, I value it.
I think we are going with some kitchen cabinets out of a surplus center here. They are inexpensive, and look better then the other stuff we have seen. They are that Chinese "Oak" not really sure what species, but it does look like oak, the casings are ply and look as well made as many.
I will try and get a picture of the pump etc to maybe explain better. That block hole is about 4' deep or so with a pump and accumulator tank in the bottom of it. My thought was to fire up the concrete mixer, mix up some mortar, and fill all the blocks solid, then "stucco" the outside of the block's with the mortar, maybe add some elastomeric in there to make it more durable. Then just put some form of pivoting roof on it.
I do like the outhouse idea though, that would be kind of cool.
The reason I want to go ahead and buy an older backhoe is that there are a lot of little jobs that come up that I need more power then my tractor or bob have. There are also a lot of times when I just wish I could "dig this out" the planters in the front, the tree's along the drive, the ditchline etc. All can be done other ways, but a backhoe of sorts is really the tool for the job. We also load trailers almost every night with mulch, dirt, plants or something for the jobs the next day, being basicly lazy, I sure like the looks of that bucket that is twice the size, maybe bigger of what is on Bob.
I can rent a hoe for about $250 a day when it is all done. Or I can make payments of $250 a month on about 15K. Then if I own it, I can use it at my liesure, an hour here, two there, 10 minutes here. I think this will be like the dump trailer, once I get one, I will wonder how we got by without one. We have shoveled a lot of dirt and mulch off a 16' flatbed, but it sure is nice to pull up and hit the button and just dump the trailer and work it with the tractor.
The 4wd adds several grand too the price. But yes, I would like it, but not sure that I will get there.
I would really like the 4/1 bucket, but have yet to see a used machine with one on it. Not sure why.
Found two more to go look at in my price range.
Hanna said last night we need to buy a one ton dually 4wd more then a backhoe,,,, I think that was immediately after getting stuck with a load of dirt in the dump trailer
Moving landscaping stuff tonight I hope, may go look at backhoes tomorrow afternoon.
I think we are going with some kitchen cabinets out of a surplus center here. They are inexpensive, and look better then the other stuff we have seen. They are that Chinese "Oak" not really sure what species, but it does look like oak, the casings are ply and look as well made as many.
I will try and get a picture of the pump etc to maybe explain better. That block hole is about 4' deep or so with a pump and accumulator tank in the bottom of it. My thought was to fire up the concrete mixer, mix up some mortar, and fill all the blocks solid, then "stucco" the outside of the block's with the mortar, maybe add some elastomeric in there to make it more durable. Then just put some form of pivoting roof on it.
I do like the outhouse idea though, that would be kind of cool.
The reason I want to go ahead and buy an older backhoe is that there are a lot of little jobs that come up that I need more power then my tractor or bob have. There are also a lot of times when I just wish I could "dig this out" the planters in the front, the tree's along the drive, the ditchline etc. All can be done other ways, but a backhoe of sorts is really the tool for the job. We also load trailers almost every night with mulch, dirt, plants or something for the jobs the next day, being basicly lazy, I sure like the looks of that bucket that is twice the size, maybe bigger of what is on Bob.
I can rent a hoe for about $250 a day when it is all done. Or I can make payments of $250 a month on about 15K. Then if I own it, I can use it at my liesure, an hour here, two there, 10 minutes here. I think this will be like the dump trailer, once I get one, I will wonder how we got by without one. We have shoveled a lot of dirt and mulch off a 16' flatbed, but it sure is nice to pull up and hit the button and just dump the trailer and work it with the tractor.
The 4wd adds several grand too the price. But yes, I would like it, but not sure that I will get there.
I would really like the 4/1 bucket, but have yet to see a used machine with one on it. Not sure why.
Found two more to go look at in my price range.
Hanna said last night we need to buy a one ton dually 4wd more then a backhoe,,,, I think that was immediately after getting stuck with a load of dirt in the dump trailer
Moving landscaping stuff tonight I hope, may go look at backhoes tomorrow afternoon.