Diesel prices?

[LBrown59]

1*LB, in my area you'd never get 55 gallons delivered even at the slowest times.
2*I think every company in my area has something like a 200 gallon minimum or you go fetch it yourself.
3* With fuel costs rising, which make delivery costs more, that minimum may go up to 500 gallons soon according to one of the three companies I call.
4* With that small of an amount LB is talking about, you'd have to have a tank mounted in the back of your pickup truck and go fetch.

1*You might if you worked it right.
2*It's 150 gallon here but I get around it by having them top off my drum when they are already in my area or passing by my place.
They are glad to do it because they pick up an extra 55 gallon sale with no driving expenses to get the sale because they are already here.
3*Top offs are extra gravy for them because they pick up extra sales without extra driving.
The more top offs they can get when they are already in an area the less the driving cost is for them.
4*probably not if done like I just explained.

 

[redharley]

Fellow's just had to chime in here just to let you know it's not all that bad for fuel hauling company's.I buy fuel oil for a fleet of trucks about 6000 gal a week. On Tuesday I paid .62 cents a gal less than pump price in Pa. To me somebody is makinig money. These guy's are real quick to raise it,very slow to bring it down.

 

[Skyco]

Ditto the quick rise/slow fall. I always hear the stations are making less than 10 cents a gallon blah blah blah. Yeah right. So how can fuel vary way more than that between stations since they all get it from the same place at presumably the same wholesale price?

 

[joerocker]

Ditto the quick rise/slow fall. I always hear the stations are making less than 10 cents a gallon blah blah blah. Yeah right. So how can fuel vary way more than that between stations since they all get it from the same place at presumably the same wholesale price?

Because EVERYONE lies...all they want is your money...

 

[redharley]

I did not want everyone to think the oil co. are ripping them,most times price's are .20 - .30 less than pump price's which at todays prices is not that high of a profit margin. Your local tractor dealer is making 20% on the parts he sells at least he needs to or we would have a place to get those parts.I just mean when prices go up they raise them right away even though what the have in the ground was cheaper,but when it come's down you won't see it for day's

 

[MikePA]

I just mean when prices go up they raise them right away even though what the have in the ground was cheaper,

It's simple economics....

• When prices are rising, they have to charge what it will cost to replace '...what the{y} have in the ground...'.
• When prices are falling, they have to charge enough to pay for '...what the{y} have in the ground...'.

 

[riptides]

It is hogwash.

The supply in a stations tanks may range from two to seven days old.

Yet the prices change once or twice a day?
That gas I bought is not in the system being produced, it is in the ground tanks. Yet we pay more for it sitting there?

It, my friends is not right. Replacement cost is a myth.

 

[dgl24087]

Ditto the quick rise/slow fall. I always hear the stations are making less than 10 cents a gallon blah blah blah. Yeah right. So how can fuel vary way more than that between stations since they all get it from the same place at presumably the same wholesale price?

Stations are not charged the same wholesale price. In a recent article in The Roanoke Times, Roanoke, VA. (I'll see if I can find it online and post a link later), a fuel distributor was interviewed. Surprisingly, he stated that stations along Interstate highways were charged more for fuel than stations away from the Interstates. High volume stations receive better pricing than lower volume stations, and the type of additives in fuel also varied prices. This distributor services Exxon, Sheetz, and Valero, as well as a few others that I can't remember off the top of my head.

 

[Dargo]

I'm just hoping prices have gone down rather than up by the time I call tomorrow to get my tank filled.

 

[MikePA]

Replacement cost is a myth.

Replacement costs were going up more than once a day, but despite the facts, people can always believe what ever they want to.

 

[Skyco]

Stations are not charged the same wholesale price. In a recent article in The Roanoke Times, Roanoke, VA. (I'll see if I can find it online and post a link later), a fuel distributor was interviewed. Surprisingly, he stated that stations along Interstate highways were charged more for fuel than stations away from the Interstates. High volume stations receive better pricing than lower volume stations, and the type of additives in fuel also varied prices. This distributor services Exxon, Sheetz, and Valero, as well as a few others that I can't remember off the top of my head.

Maybe. But let me put it another way- one company owns probably the majority of the stations in a pretty big area here. He has multiple brands and sometimes even owns BOTH stations at an exit, although they are different brands. I don't think the public as a whole has picked up on this.

Now surely he has some huge contract in place since he buys a lot of fuel from the distribution point about 60 miles away. So if he is paying x amount per gallon for say, Shell, and has it brought to all his Shell stations, with perhaps a small difference in delivered price due to mileage, then why does it vary so much between his different stations? I completely understand charging what the market will bear but don't tell us they only make 10 cents a gallon when his stations vary 20 or 30 cents a gallon or more!

As for charging an interstate exit station more- So if this owner has a station right at the exit, easy and quicker trip for the tanker, the exit station pays more than the same owners station 5 miles away off the exit? I ain't buying that one, if it is true then some station owners need to raise ****!

PS I'm not trying to attack you! Something ain't right with the "system"... Yesterday I read where Exxon/Mobil again posted RECORD profits!

 

[Dargo]

Hmm, I don't know if it's a good price or not, but I have fuel coming today at $3.86 a gallon for #2 off road diesel. It's better than it was but far higher than it used to be.

 

[LBrown59]

Hmm, I don't know if it's a good price or not, but I have fuel coming today at $3.86 a gallon for #2 off road diesel.

Don't sound bad compared to the $4.48 for on road that I saw yesterday at a speed way station.

 

[oldmech]

Hi! Everybody. I think These high prices Diesel fuel could be go a lot more low. When more peoples quit oil fuel for heating houses May be one year or two. Diesel fuel stocks are low now a reason for high price. Good luck ! Oldmech

 

[Patches]

Makes no sense to me; 87 octane gas $3.839/ diesel $4.799 at a local Sunoco

 

[dgl24087]

Reg. unleaded $3.599-3.659, road diesel $4.299-4.499 around my area.

 

[RobJ]

Makes no sense to me; 87 octane gas $3.839/ diesel $4.799 at a local Sunoco

You think it's cheap to make ULSD??? More if you have to buy the hydrogen! Then try and sell or GIVE away the sulphur that piles up.

https://portal.mustangeng.com/pls/p...CHNICAL_ARTICLES_CONTENT/USDLHYDROTREATER.PDF

Regular gas is $3.57 when I filled up yesterday. Diesel $4.30.

 

[Patches]

You think it's cheap to make ULSD??? More if you have to buy the hydrogen! Then try and sell or GIVE away the sulphur that piles up.

https://portal.mustangeng.com/pls/p...CHNICAL_ARTICLES_CONTENT/USDLHYDROTREATER.PDF

Regular gas is $3.57 when I filled up yesterday. Diesel $4.30.

Hadn't considered the cost of removing the sulphur,duh Still remember buying gas for $0.25 a gallon, or less when they had their (gas wars) in the 50's; course you were working for 50/60 cents an hour

 

[LBrown59]

Hadn't considered the cost of removing the sulphur,duh Still remember buying gas for $0.25 a gallon, or less when they had their (gas wars) in the 50's; course you were working for 50/60 cents an hour

When i got my first car in 1958 a 1950 chevy gas was 25 cents a gallon .
In 1976 I bought a 1950 chevy for a keep sake .
Gas was 50 cents a gallon.

 

[charlz]

Here in the Boise area there are two pipelines that bring fuel up from the Salt Lake area. Both belong to Chevron. As you can imagine we get a serious 'lag' when prices start to go down. for instance regular is 3.94 and diesel is 4.74 at Sam's club with is cheaper than most places.

Obviously everyone is getting their fuel the same way so something is different. Additives I think probably make the biggest difference between say Chevron and a club like Sam's which likely has no additional additives beyond what might be required by law.