Diverter valve Vs. True third function

[jcummins]

This double solenoid diverter valve works as good as any other diverter. They have about 218 of these in stock now. $153.

SAE 8 15 GPM DOUBLE SELECTOR VALVE 12 VDC P15544-1

Here is how the valve is connected.

http://www.surpluscenter.com/_MoreSpecs/i9-5117.pdf

Got a grapple on order, and think I will go with a diverter. Seems a bit less money, and simplier to install...at least for me.

J_J on the diverter in the link you mentioned, it does not by default go back to the orginal function as the other one mentioned. I'd like for it to work...press the button, you work the grapple. Release the button it's back to normal. From what I'm reading this valve does not work that way.

Also, looking at hoses, I probably will run 1/2", since it is all I have dealt with, but from what I read the fitting size on the hoses for 1/2" or 3/8" are different. How does that work with I guess are 1/2" ports on the diverter valve?

Others have mentioned the Bosch is still available...just not from surplus center. If so where is that at?

 

[jcummins]

Also...how do this valves mount to the tractor. The Bosch appears to have holes in the corners, but bolting that way also appears it would block some ports to the mounting plate. On the valve J_J reference, I don't see similar holes.

 

[Guesseral]

I just don't see how this valve would work, I must be missing something. I could see it if one valve was normally open and one was normally closed, that way when the button was pushed they would just change state and transfer fluid from one to the other but I just don't see it as it is.

 

[BukitCase]

"The Bosch appears to have holes in the corners, but bolting that way also appears it would block some ports to the mounting plate."

The Bosch valve - the holes in the corners are for stacking multiple valves, there are other holes (recessed for allen head bolts) for mounting the valve to your equipment. They are at 90 deg. to the "stacking" holes.

When stacked, the bosch has two inlet ports on one side of the stack, the default (no power) is straight thru to the other side, whether there is one valve or several stacked. Energizing the solenoid switches THAT valve to the side ports.

The fourth side of the valve is blank so that goes against whatever mounting surface you use.

Flow is thru any and all valves in the stack and out the other side with no voltage applied to any solenoid, so whatever function you're "stealing", the two hoses from the original control valve go in one side and two NEW hoses go from the OTHER side BACK to that original function (curl, for example) - then the SWITCHED ports (the pairs of ports that aren't used yet) go to whatever you are adding, and the solenoid for each diverter in the stack "diverts" flow from the normal destination to the new one.

Only way I've figured out to use the double solenoid setup for this is to have something like the Scorpion handle with 2 buttons and the trigger switch, and use ONE button to divert TO your grapple and the SECOND button to "un-divert" back to bucket curl.

Glad I have the Bosch... Steve

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Got a grapple on order, and think I will go with a diverter. Seems a bit less money, and simplier to install...at least for me.

J_J on the diverter in the link you mentioned, it does not by default go back to the orginal function as the other one mentioned. I'd like for it to work...press the button, you work the grapple. Release the button it's back to normal. From what I'm reading this valve does not work that way.

Also, looking at hoses, I probably will run 1/2", since it is all I have dealt with, but from what I read the fitting size on the hoses for 1/2" or 3/8" are different. How does that work with I guess are 1/2" ports on the diverter valve?

Others have mentioned the Bosch is still available...just not from surplus center. If so where is that at?[/QUOTE]

Contact me at Fit Rite Hydraulics.com

 

[Fallon]

Contact me at Fit Rite Hydraulics.com

I'll vouch for the quality of his products & helpfullness dealing with less than experienced users such as myself on their projects.

I also like supporting businesses that support the community, which he does as an advertiser & with posting lots of good advice & support.

 

[J_J]

MtnViewRanch,

Guesseral

BukitCase

If you are talking about the double solenoid valve, here is how it works.

You need a 3 position switch with the center pin +12 v.

With the switch in sw1, 12v is applied to the curl solenoid of the valve and the curl will work normally.

With the switch is sw2, 12v is applied to the grapple solenoid and the grapple will work.

If you leave the switch in neutral, the relief will activate because no fluid is flowing with no voltage applied.

Select your operation before using the lever.

The other single solenoid valve works different by using one solenoid to route the fluid .

In the no voltage state, the curl will work.

With 12v applied, the grapple will work.

I don't believe I said anything different. I do know how they work.

The diverter valve will have 6 ports, and the true 3rd function, will probably only have 4 ports unless you order the subplate with a relief valve port or a hyd gage port.