Helpful neighbor!

/ Helpful neighbor! #821  
Good few years back, 3 of us were taking a short cut thru an unlit mall parking lot one dark wet night.
We are 3 wide and I hear a click clack that sounded like windshield wipers missing a blade.
A jalopy driven by a teen actually ran us down but I shoved the two guys either side away but had no place for me so I jumped up onto his hood and promptly slid off to the side in a puddle of dirty water.
Without lights he was , thankfully, going really slow otherwise one of us would have been seriously hurt.

I angrily whipped open his door only to get an earfull of profanity. Well I cooled down a bit and asked him to pay my dry cleaning and we'd forget it.
His answer was "F--- OFF" !
Well I had demanded his papers which he'd handed over so I had an upper hand and gave him 24 hours to come up with my cleaning bill telling him that if I did not hear back I'd file 'Hit and Run charges' which I actually did do.

Weeks later I received a supena for the case only to find that they had cancelled the case.
I pointed out to the court clerk that only I, the plaintiff, could drop the case.
The court clerk took me aside to a small room and handed me $500.
The punk kid was the judges son!

Ain't the justice system just great.
(I should add that that court was 300 miles from home and it was simply not worth doing all the right things just based on principal.)

Had another example when my lawyer gave a case to female intern to handle.
Judge told her "Go back to the kitchen where you belong" and then refused to let me plead my own defense, and this was a case that I was well documented and should have won.

AND,
don't ask me about mandatory supenas as a witness, Once drove 200 miles only to find that of 6 called I was the only one to show up.
Others never even got fined.
Then another time they paid me $4.50 for mileage and nothing for the lost day as the guy pled guilty and they claimed I was not needed.
Told them to keep the $4.50
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #823  
Good few years back, 3 of us were taking a short cut thru an unlit mall parking lot one dark wet night.
We are 3 wide and I hear a click clack that sounded like windshield wipers missing a blade.
A jalopy driven by a teen actually ran us down but I shoved the two guys either side away but had no place for me so I jumped up onto his hood and promptly slid off to the side in a puddle of dirty water.
Without lights he was , thankfully, going really slow otherwise one of us would have been seriously hurt.

I angrily whipped open his door only to get an earfull of profanity. Well I cooled down a bit and asked him to pay my dry cleaning and we'd forget it.
His answer was "F--- OFF" !
Well I had demanded his papers which he'd handed over so I had an upper hand and gave him 24 hours to come up with my cleaning bill telling him that if I did not hear back I'd file 'Hit and Run charges' which I actually did do.

Weeks later I received a supena for the case only to find that they had cancelled the case.
I pointed out to the court clerk that only I, the plaintiff, could drop the case.
The court clerk took me aside to a small room and handed me $500.
The punk kid was the judges son!

Ain't the justice system just great.
(I should add that that court was 300 miles from home and it was simply not worth doing all the right things just based on principal.)

Had another example when my lawyer gave a case to female intern to handle.
Judge told her "Go back to the kitchen where you belong" and then refused to let me plead my own defense, and this was a case that I was well documented and should have won.

AND,
don't ask me about mandatory supenas as a witness, Once drove 200 miles only to find that of 6 called I was the only one to show up.
Others never even got fined.
Then another time they paid me $4.50 for mileage and nothing for the lost day as the guy pled guilty and they claimed I was not needed.
Told them to keep the $4.50
What, you took the bribe from a judge? You just added to the problem your complaining about.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #827  
On the subject of "gotta love the justice system," a year ago, I was pulled over by a cop who ALREADY had someone else pulled over and was writing a ticket, and was walking from vehicle to vehicle when I came around the corner and he waved to me to stop me. I was told I was going at whatever speed in a whatever zone (caught on radar), but he wrote a slower number on the ticket. I don't see how it could have been on radar given the circumstances so I suspected it was actually an estimate.

Anyway, I went to arraignment and witnessed what appeared to me to be a lawyer walk in with his teenage son who had gotten a ticket for whatever reason, jumped the line of everyone else waiting to check in, and looked very pleased with himself when walking out of the court room, apparently winning his case. Meanwhile everyone else is waiting for hours for arraignment and to plea their case without a lawyer to work the system, and the son learns that he can get away with things.

Just wanted to vent! Shield Arc, I hope things go your way sooner than later.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #828  
Many years ago when poor and just starting out on my own, I had an old Yamaha 400 Special II motorcycle. I paid $300 for the bike and insurance was $57/year. It was so old that the baffle between the pipes was cracked making it louder than it should have been if the exhaust worked properly.

I came around a corner and down a hill where a policeman had a car pulled over writing a ticket. He waved me down on my way by. I stopped as he suggested and waited for him while he finished with the car he had pulled over only to receive a ticket and fine myself for exhaust too loud.

What a subjective ticket to a broke 19 YO kid working hard and simply trying to survive. Could have given me a warning. Or better yet, could have gotten out a decibel reader or something other than giving me a fine.

Still irritates me to this day when these Harley owners put Vance and Hines ultra loud pipes on their bikes on purpose and since they obviously have money and for the most part are affluent, they never get anything of the sort handed to them. And their bikes are louder than mine ever was.

Sorry to go off topic.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #829  
Still irritates me to this day when these Harley owners put Vance and Hines ultra loud pipes on their bikes on purpose and since they obviously have money and for the most part are affluent, they never get anything of the sort handed to them. And their bikes are louder than mine ever was.
That really peeves me off too. Some of the pipes look like straight pipes to me, wth gives? Do that on a Japanese bike and they are all over you. I hate having any vehicle that is loud, just no reason for it. "But I need to be heard so no one hits me"...bull, I want to hit you because I can't hear myself think when you're next to me or in front. I can't hear it until it's on or past me so being heard is a farce. Rant off.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #830  
Of course the people with the loud pipes say it's so other drivers can hear them. I've been startled by loud pipes several times. We have a loud pipe bike law in Alberta but what's really stupid is it doesn't apply to other vehicles. There are some people with exceptionally loud cars and trucks too. Why anybody would want an extremely loud vehicle is beyond me.

Most ridiculous ticket I got was the city truck unit. I was pulling my tandem trailer behind a 1 ton with my MF135 on it and had just got gas and checked all the chains and everything. I drove about a block and got pulled over. 1 guy asked for my license and registration while the other one was going around checking EVERYTHING. He said my chains were all good, my tires were good, my lights were good, everything was good. Then the other guy hands me a $150 ticket because he said I was overweight and didn't have weight stickers on the side of the truck. I asked him why they never told me that at the DMV and he said I'm supposed to know. I told him the only thing they told me was I have to register the truck and trailer together which I did. Considering everything else was perfect, they could have given me 24 hours to put weight stickers on the side of the truck. Someone told me I should have fought the ticket because they never put the truck and trailer on a scale. After 5500kg is when you need the stickers, below that you don't. I was probably over the weight but I certainly wasn't a safety risk to anyone.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #831  
... guess we wouldn't get along. Long tube headers on my truck with welded thrush mufflers, and 3 straight pipe bikes. 6" straight pipe stack on my ford 7000, 5" straight pipe on my 7.3l, FMF on my 440ex. Mever had a neighbor complain until I finally put the mufflers on my truck, (was running open headers) She got mad because I didn't wake her up any more when I drove by at 530am every morning. No noise ordinance where I live 20 minutes from town, had a short time neighbor call the sheriff on a group of friends and I for riding our quads on my land and being too loud. Sheriff did nothing since we were in the back of our 80 acre plot and neighbor moved back to town off his 5 acre farm.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #832  
I've always thought noise was a lot like my freedom to swing my fist. I can swing it anywhere I want until it comes to somebody else's nose. Same with sound and ears. I love the sound of a well tuned V8 as much as the next guy, but there are plenty of people that don't appreciate hearing it at 5:30AM. Most of us moved out into the stix to get away from all the city racket, and when a gaggle of straight piped V-twins comes roaring up the canyon, shakin' the windows in all the neighbor's houses, lots of people's blood pressure goes through the roof and it inspires a lot of hatred for anybody on a motorcycle, not just the loud ones. Excessive noise, no matter what the cause, is nothing less than bad behavior by an inconsiderate, self centered, lhey-look-at-me showoff, and as far as most people are concerned, the world would be a better place without 'em.:2cents:

Folks, this thread has drifted way off topic. Apologies to Shield Arc for the hijack.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #833  
I guess I look at it a little differently, I live out there for the freedom to do such things. If I wanted quiet all the time, I'd live in a quiet neighborhood 20 feet from my neighbor. Guess I figure, if my neighbor can raise hogs, I can raise decibels.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #834  
I guess I look at it a little differently, I live out there for the freedom to do such things. If I wanted quiet all the time, I'd live in a quiet neighborhood 20 feet from my neighbor. Guess I figure, if my neighbor can raise hogs, I can raise decibels.

Difference is the guy raising the hogs is making a living and feeding his family............on the other hand your raised decibels is just so you can feel loud. It otherwise serves no other purpose except maybe purposely pizzing off your neighbors......... not very thoughtful or courteous I would say.....and I will add an example of a "unhelpful neighbor" to get us back on thread track.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #835  
I've heard Harley riders claim that their bikes aren't actually louder (in decibels) but the unbalanced twin configuration exhaust is just more penetrating. However, I've also seen data that shows the "sport" models of HD as right at the EPA limits whereas other bikes are 10 to 20 decibels less. I think it's safe to say any HD with aftermarket pipes is technically illegal.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #837  
Agreed
:thumbsup:

I enjoy a nice sounding engine, but that is what they make race tracks for
Something I found much more annoying though is a diesel that has excessive exhaust sound and also dumping tons of black smoke.........
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #838  
Sorry to get off track again, but what if you moved to within earshot of a race track? Or moved to within earshot of somewhere that was known for loud noise before you moved there? We have had a race track, a mud pit (organized events and charity events held there) a pulling track (sanctioned MSTPA pulls were held there, and are geting ready to have another few tracks in one shut down that have been around for ever, but new neighbors moved in and are petitioning for them to be shut down.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #839  
I've always thought noise was a lot like my freedom to swing my fist. I can swing it anywhere I want until it comes to somebody else's nose. Same with sound and ears. I love the sound of a well tuned V8 as much as the next guy, but there are plenty of people that don't appreciate hearing it at 5:30AM. Most of us moved out into the stix to get away from all the city racket, and when a gaggle of straight piped V-twins comes roaring up the canyon, shakin' the windows in all the neighbor's houses, lots of people's blood pressure goes through the roof and it inspires a lot of hatred for anybody on a motorcycle, not just the loud ones. Excessive noise, no matter what the cause, is nothing less than bad behavior by an inconsiderate, self centered, lhey-look-at-me showoff, and as far as most people are concerned, the world would be a better place without 'em.:2cents:

Folks, this thread has drifted way off topic. Apologies to Shield Arc for the hijack.
There's a famous South Park episode that explains how most people think.
 
/ Helpful neighbor! #840  
Sorry to get off track again, but what if you moved to within earshot of a race track? Or moved to within earshot of somewhere that was known for loud noise before you moved there? We have had a race track, a mud pit (organized events and charity events held there) a pulling track (sanctioned MSTPA pulls were held there, and are geting ready to have another few tracks in one shut down that have been around for ever, but new neighbors moved in and are petitioning for them to be shut down.
This seems to be a classic example of apples to beef jerky.......
 

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