Hose crimps

[Discount Hydraulic Hose]

Personally, I'd hate see to see either one of you guys disappear. I have a huge need for my local guys and a desire to shop on the internet from time to time. I usually get hoses, parts and advice from the local guys. I often get oddball, non-stock stuff off the internet.

I'm not going anywhere. I've discussed this with the moderator, and he has encouraged me to stay. I will, however, attempt to limit references to the company I work for.

Also, my contributions will be limited to threads about hydraulic hoses and connections. That's the stuff I know, and that is where I can be of the most help. If one of you starts asking me questions about the gearbox on your John Deere, I'm just going to stare at you blankly, cause I don't nothing about no gearboxes.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

It seems like some of you are suggesting that hydraulics fittings,hoses, etc, are not interchangeable. Then just what is the purpose of a cross reference. such as the one below. Sure they might be problems if all things are not considered. I can see where an individual might not have the equipment and know how, and adjustable dies to do a super job, but that individual might be able to compensate for small differences.

So, really, what are some of you saying, that if I had a hundred Weatherhead fittings, and a 1000 ft of Gate hose, that I could not make up a hose that might work for a lifetime, or be equal to factory made up hose. I also think that if I sold a product, I believe I would brag about how much better it is, than the competitor, because, it could be. The people at the hydraulic repair facility should be knowledgeable enough to make hoses and fittings work together. That would be like a Chevy mechanic saying, I can't work on a Ford.


Coupling Cross Reference - Kurt Hydraulics

Hydraulic Hose and Fitting Compatibility

Hydraulics 101 by Gates

http://www.gates.com/downloads/download_common.cfm?file=Hydraulics101.pdf&folder=brochure

The Gates link I couldn't open ad the Kurt hydraulics cross reference is merely for part # interchange, not fitting to hose compatability.

Nobody is saying it's like a Chevy machanic can't fix a Ford. What I am saying is that you can"t put a Chevy water pump on a Ford motor.

 

[wedge40]

Nobody is saying it's like a Chevy machanic can't fix a Ford. What I am saying is that you can"t put a Chevy water pump on a Ford motor.

Beat to fit and paint to match.

Wedge

 

[BlacknTan]

Well... went to "Ye Olde Hydraulics Shoppe" today.. an Aeroquip dealer, btw, for a few fittings... One fitting was "Made in China".. The other from South Korea. I asked the guy behind the counter about it, and he replied that Aeroquip products are sourced worldwide..

Sometimes ya' just can't win fer losin! LOL

 

[J_J]

Well... went to "Ye Olde Hydraulics Shoppe" today.. an Aeroquip dealer, btw, for a few fittings... One fitting was "Made in China".. The other from South Korea. I asked the guy behind the counter about it, and he replied that Aeroquip products are sourced worldwide..

Sometimes ya' just can't win fer losin! LOL

That just proves a point about hoses and fittings. I wonder if they guaranty the product if made elsewhere. So much for buying certified name brand fittings. How about the hose, you all reckon that all that hose comes off the same role and they just put a different name on it.

Wayne , what would say to a mix of parts to make up a hose and call it a name brand product, and charge name brand prices. One has to be skeptical these days about people, places , and things. If everyone made part to SAE spec's there would not be such a problem.

You all had better check out that next women you get, it might not be.

 

[Charlesaf3]

I personally hope Hydraulics guy and wayne county hose both stick around. I'd patronize a local hose shop if I could, but all I've got around here is NAPA, and they really aren't that interested in making hoses.

And since my lack of knowledge about hydraulics is huge, I really appreciate learning from people who know this stuff.

 

[BlacknTan]

I guess it's just a sign of the times more than anything else... And actually, the South Korean fitting looks to be high quality and very nice!

 

[Wayne County Hose]

I can't speak for anyone else's product, but most of the fittings on my shelf say, "Made in China." Sorry. If you can find a fitting made in this country, or anything else for that matter, then good for you. I don't like it as much as anyone else. But, ponder this. Most of what I read on this board about hydraulic hoses are people belly aching about price. What did you expect the manufacturers to do? It's what all of you asked for. No, sorry, on second thought you didn't ask for it. You demanded it! Don't blame the manufacturer for what you demanded.

J_J, I know shops that put cheap Weatherhead knock-offs on their shelf and charge Weatherhead price. So when you do get a hose from a shop, make sure it is what they say they sell. I can't tell you the name of it, but I do know of a shop that grossed well over $2 million and got their distributorship pulled for doing this.

 

[wedge40]

I tend to disagree. The country did it them self. We kept asking for more benefits and higher wages. At some point when profits gets too low, stock holders say you have to do something and the company shops for any way to save money. Cheap labor, low or zero taxes, etc. I don't feel bad about getting stuff made out of country, be it China, Japan, Mexico what ever. We did it to our selves. Now we'll have to deal with it.

Wedge

 

[IceStationZebra]

My 2¢ on the whole SAE thing...

Yes theoretically you can mix-and-match parts from different vendors. But...
1) The hose and hose end are a "system" and dimensional compatability does not guaranty performance.
2) Nobody has tested every combination, therefore nobody will stand behind it.
3) My life is worth the extra $3 for the correct hose ends. I regularly work on 1" hoses at 4000psi and I take this seriously.

ISZ