Buying Advice Mahindra 4035 HST vs. Kubota L4240 HST

[Sysop]

I have not twisted anything nor have I called anyone any names. You did.

You mistakenly thought that I said "once a week" and jumped on me demanding I prove something when you didn't read it right in the first place. Then when I clarified that my point was only that front axle failures are a concern on CUTs you dismissed it cause the thread that had popped up the other day was two years old; like reality changed in two years and there's no way such a thing has happened since or could happen anymore.

Maybe you need to go back to POST#59 E you called me a TROLL.Does that ring a bell?BO-HOO !

This was after you started into an argument about a simple point I made, then tried twisting it back on me like I started an argument about it and began the "weekend farmer" and "oh great one" stuff. So go ring your own bell, ya got a short memory...

Troll isn't so much a name, as it is an adverb describing a particular behavior that's been displayed throughout the latter half this thread. Honestly, it's up to future readers to decide, so bad call on my part...

 

[TomSeller]

Anything specific about Mahindra makes you think they aren't expert enough to design efficient tractors?

Not other than it seems like a tractor can meet my requirements with less iron. I run out of PTO power well before ever losing traction. I have mostly flat ground so weight does not benefit me. Some people think weight is good and I think weight is good for some people but not all. Sounds like Mahindra is a solution for you, so good job choosing it. I like my JD, MF, Kub and Case.

 

[murphy1244]

You mistakenly thought that I said "once a week" and jumped on me demanding I prove something when you didn't read it right in the first place. Then when I clarified that my point was only that front axle failures are a concern on CUTs you dismissed it cause the thread that had popped up the other day was two years old; like reality changed in two years and there's no way such a thing has happened since or could happen anymore.



This was after you started into an argument about a simple point I made, then tried twisting it back on me like I started an argument about it and began the "weekend farmer" and "oh great one" stuff. So go ring your own bell, ya got a short memory...

Troll isn't so much a name, as it is an adverb describing a particular behavior that's been displayed throughout the latter half this thread. Honestly, it's up to future readers to decide, so bad call on my part...

Did you even read those? Its the Wheel not a front axle that broke.

 

[coobie]

You mistakenly thought that I said "once a week" and jumped on me demanding I prove something when you didn't read it right in the first place. Then when I clarified that my point was only that front axle failures are a concern on CUTs you dismissed it cause the thread that had popped up the other day was two years old; like reality changed in two years and there's no way such a thing has happened since or could happen anymore.



This was after you started into an argument about a simple point I made, then tried twisting it back on me like I started an argument about it and began the "weekend farmer" and "oh great one" stuff. So go ring your own bell, ya got a short memory...

Troll isn't so much a name, as it is an adverb describing a particular behavior that's been displayed throughout the latter half this thread. Honestly, it's up to future readers to decide, so bad call on my part...

You will do well here.I can see that now.Good luck,I wish this website had a IGNORE user button.

 

[murphy1244]

You will do well here.I can see that now.Good luck,I wish this website had a IGNORE user button.

And it keeps coming back! Worse than the energizer bunny

 

[coobie]

And it keeps coming back! Worse than the energizer bunny

YES SIR!!I am tired.Plus my popcorn is gone.LOL.

 

[Sysop]

Did you even read those? Its the Wheel not a front axle that broke.

The wheel came off due to a broken axle shaft, yes, I did read it. It said the shaft had even been made hollow at the point in which it had broken. It also had said the new part had been redesigned. I read every post all the way through. I hate seeing broken stuff and always like to know how best to try and avoid it.

Good test (I guess) if you read it too, bad bluff if not...

 

[murphy1244]

The wheel came off due to a broken axle shaft, yes, I did read it. It said the shaft had even been made hollow at the point in which it had broken. It also had said the new part had been redesigned. I read every post all the way through. I hate seeing broken stuff and always like to know how best to try and avoid it.

Good test (I guess) if you read it, bad bluff if not...

The reason was bad welds. They even machined thru a few.

 

[Sysop]

By the way, good job hijacking OPs thread. As far as I know neither of ya have either of the tractors in question. So what's your horse in this race if it's not to simply be a disturbance?

 

[TRocco]

Notwithstanding the unnecessary wrangling on the part of some, I am grateful for the additional info. on the subject. Any other advantages and disadvantages of the models will be appreciated.

 

[coobie]

By the way, good job hijacking OPs thread. As far as I know neither of ya have either of the tractors in question. So what's your horse in this race if it's not to simply be a disturbance?

(SIGH)

 

[Sysop]

Notwithstanding the unnecessary wrangling on the part of some, I am grateful for the additional info. on the subject. Any other advantages and disadvantages of the models will be appreciated.

Those are the words of a true gentleman.

I think I've pointed out what I could about my decision on the Mahindra's heft, and there's been allot of other good info in here, and plenty for folk to come along and laugh about later. I don't think I have anything I could add, but you're welcome to ask me anything.

 

[94BULLITT]

94BULLIT: For the greatest traction on grass and dirt. I'll not be driving the tractor on blacktop.

I was just saying you will see they ride way rougher. I think R4's do better on hard packed dirt than R1's. If you drive up a damp hill with R1's they will tear up the grass were R4's won't. R4's are wider, so the tractor will be more stable. R4's are more puncture/ snag resistant.

Notwithstanding the unnecessary wrangling on the part of some, I am grateful for the additional info. on the subject. Any other advantages and disadvantages of the models will be appreciated.

I could bring up that the Kubota will have a better resale value but that might make this thread go on for another 10 pages so I won't do it

The Kubota has HST+ with a dual speed hydro. Auto throttle advance. The loader is really nice. The engine is pretty quiet. The seat rotate 12* on cab tractors.

Where you going to get a cab?

 

[Sysop]

The engine is pretty quiet.

I will +1 that for Kubotas in this class. They have a much quieter engine than the 4035. It was noticeable when I was testing/shopping, but being a bit of a gearhead I didn't concern myself with it much because the Mahindra wasn't overly loud in my opinion, especially in the operator's station. Having some real seat time on the machine, I can say quieter would be nice at times. For some the noise difference would definitely be a factor.

 

[bullockcm]

Honestly for working uneven ground, I'd go AG all the way. Neither AG nor Industrial will tear up the ground unless you lose traction or the ground is too soft to be working on in the first place. Either of those cases you'll prefer AG. AG won't pack up with soft ground and lose traction as quick, and be easier to regain traction if traction is lost.

This has been beat to death and probably has been later in this thread but I will chime in with my limited experience. I have a Kubota 4240 and went with R4's and really wish I had gone with R1's. My father has a MX5100 with R1's which other than tires is fairly similar to my tractor. The difference in traction is huge between the 2 anytime conditions are less than perfect. In general they weight enough and are big enough that they will rarely be used in a nice yard however, if you do go there and it is soft enough for the R1's to mark it up the R4's will as well just not quite as bad. I actually find the R4's tendency to spin so much easier that it tears things up worse since the R1's won't loose traction and spin. The softer the ground gets the bigger the difference is. I have actually had my tractor stuck twice in mud and I believe if I had R1's I would have left ruts but would have been able to keep on going.

About the only 2 advantages I can come up with for the R4's is better puncture resistance and stiffer sidewall if doing a lot of heavy loader work on solid ground.

 

[GManBart]

I have a Kubota 4240 and went with R4's and really wish I had gone with R1's. My father has a MX5100 with R1's which other than tires is fairly similar to my tractor. The difference in traction is huge between the 2 anytime conditions are less than perfect.

Very true. My LS has R4s, and my MF has R1s. The LS weighs about 5,200lbs (with FEL and bucket) and the MF around 5,200 (no FEL, but 6' brush cutter on it). I was using both to clear some brush in a wet area a few weeks ago...the LS was spinning the tires in the soft dirt/mud (it wasn't soaking wet) repeatedly. I don't recall the MF spinning the tires at all....huge difference. I still want R4s on the LS for FEL work, but I'm glad the MF has R1s as an alternative.

 

[TRocco]

I too noticed the difference in engine noise. And, as my wife will tell you straight away, I despise noise (hence our decision to live on some land outside the city!).

 

[TRocco]

bullock and GManBart: Great input on the tires. What do y'all think about R1s in the rear for traction and R4s up front for better handling of the FEL weight?

 

[94BULLITT]

R1's and R4's are usually different size so the ratio will be wrong for 4WD.

 

[TripleR]

Mixed front and back can be done, my father in law had turfs on the rear and ag on the front when he bought a new tractor, but he had the dealer do it to match the gearing ratio, we ran it that way for several years then went with industrial on the front and turf on the back, last year I moved it to our flatland farm and we put industrial tires all the way around, it is a 1986 with never any problems, you just have to pick the right tires.