New pickup

[Alien]

@ $120,000 AU it is very expensive but there are quite a few of them getting around. I turn green every time I see one.

I just did some more research and it seems the top of the line starts at around $100,000 with the basic around $80,000 + on road costs (dealer fees and registration/insurance etc.

RAM 15 218 pricing and specs confirmed - Car News | CarsGuide

Too much for me to outlay at my age sad to say.
Enjoy your truck oosik. If I ever get over your way you can take me around the block in it.

 

[bcp]

Enjoy your truck oosik. If I ever get over your way you can take me around the block in it.

I'll bet that will be a long ride.

Bruce

 

[4570Man]

The 3/4 tons have the old style column shifter. The 1/2 tons have the dial shifter which sucks in my opinion.

I hate electric function anything that was easily accomplished by a mechanical linkage. Someday you’ll be stuck with a knob that won’t shift into gear and near impossible trouble shooting. The mechanical linkage will probably never break and will definitely never be rodent food and is easily fixed if it does break. But on today’s vehicles that’s probably the least of your problems. I wouldn’t keep them around when they get old because the days of swapping a few fairly cheap parts and being on your way are over IMO.

 

[oosik]

Interesting that you should pick up on the mechanical linkage thing - 4570Man. My Jeep TJ has mechanical 4WD linkage. My Ford F-150 has electric over vacuum activated 4WD. One time, while schmoozing down the driveway, I got to the county road. It was unplowed and had an ice underlayer on the asphalt, to boot. Soooo - I twisted the knob in the pickup to activate 4WD.

Nothing.

Water from a puddle, in the driveway, had splashed up and instantly frozen around the vacuum activation cylinder/rod/assembly. By the time I had traveled five miles it was working again. But if I had needed 4WD right then - zero.

A testament to modern technology.

Back in the day, when I belonged to the 4WD club - mechanical linkage was the only way. If we would have had to rely on any type of vacuum or electrical activation - life could have become very difficult. Right away.

 

[Jstpssng]

GM and Dodge had problems when they first started using vacuum to engage their front axle. I couldn't guess how many times I engaged 4wd on my '91 Dakota, only to find that it was frozen and I was )literally) stuck in 2WD. I finally smartened up, engaged it with my air compressor and plugged the lines so that it was always engaged. A colleague spent the night in the woods because when he switched from 4H to 4L the front end disengaged and wouldn't go back in.

GM has the worst drive by wire; anything takes longer, whether it's acceleration after stepping on the gas or shifting gears. I've acquired the bad habit of shifting into drive while still moving backward. When I get into my Ranger I have to remember to drive di.fferently

 

[Garandman]

One "tool"that I keep in my newer Ram is a code reader, if I get a check engine light I can read and if desired reset the code.

Many functions will not work with a CEL on, and it may even go into a limp mode which restricts
power and rpm.

Ditto.

My teen daughter was kind enough to fill the gas tank of our Outback 3.6R. This car has adaptive cruise control and the EyeSight system for lane departure warning, smart cruise, etc.*

She called me half an hour later with all kinds of lights in the dash, and cruise control would not work. Brought it home and the code said, Evaporative control overflow or something like that.

GIS and it took me to a Subaru forum that explained the probable cause - a loose gas cap!� Sure enough, cleared the code, checked the gas cap and it was loose.

* Learn got to turn off your collision avoidance system before you go to the car wash!

 

[fried1765]

Congratulations on the new truck! It sounds great!

FWIW - RAm has the best looking front end on the road right now.


TBS

AGREED !!!

 

[Jstpssng]

Congratulations on the new truck! It sounds great!

FWIW - RAm has the best looking front end on the road right now.


TBS

Not just the front end, people I know that have Rams love their trucks, including the 23 mpg they are getting with them.

 

[Oaktree]

My teen daughter was kind enough to fill the gas tank of our Outback 3.6R. This car has adaptive cruise control and the EyeSight system for lane departure warning, smart cruise, etc.*

* Learn got to turn off your collision avoidance system before you go to the car wash!

I wonder how long before the government mandates that this (IMHO) crap can not be turned off/disabled? I really, really dislike having a vehicle telling me how to drive, and at minimum beeping at me when I don't do what it thinks I should.

 

[oosik]

I found that the tire pressure monitoring system is gov mandated on the PW. Got the same on my motorcycle. Worthless - if you don't keep track of tire pressure, you probably don't monitor your engine oil either. A lot of folks are going to do a whole lot better in driverless autos. The driverless auto will do fine as long as there is a place to plug in their cell phones or other electronic devices.

I can turn off the air bags in my 2006 Jeep TJ. That's an important feature if you do much off-roading.

All the communication devices, etc will not be used on the new PW. H**L, I never take my cell phone with me when I leave the house. That's probably why I had no idea what Apple Car play or the four SiriusXM features are all about.

Now I know what an engine with MDS is all about. I thought it had something to do with monosodium glutamate.

Hey - I'm still struggling with the analog age. Digital is a lot of smoke and mirrors.

And the salesman wondered why I was concerned if the Warn winch had remote control or corded control handle. Have you ever seen what can happen when a winch line snaps? That's why you ALWAYS throw an old wool blanket over the winch line on a pull.

Oh, I'll get there. The learning curve is gonna be almost vertical though.

 

[Doofy]

oosik,
Good Luck deciphering all the new features on your new Truck. Should be an exciting learning experience. Heck, I just got a smart phone and about all that I've mastered is turning it off and on.
Oh, and I sent a text to my wife who was across the room on the couch.

It is amazing that your new Truck, as heavy as it is, gets better mileage than my Ranger or Jeep. I am envious but have the tractor to pay for before I can dream of a new Truck.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Not just the front end, people I know that have Rams love their trucks, including the 23 mpg they are getting with them.

I bet they are looking at the puter average...

I saw a test where they BOUGHT 3 new pu's, Ram, Chev, Ford, all half tons... The puter average showed them to have nearly the same millage, UNTIL they checked the REAL mpg with paper/pen. All on the same trip, over the same roads ect...

The chev was best and very close to the puter average, the Ford came in second and also was close to the puter reading but one mpg worse than the chev.

The Ram, it was waaaaaaay worse, regardless what the puter said, in fact they tested them twice because the Ram was so far off, and it was a very distant third, the puter was waaay off. My brothers new Ram confirms this, the puter reads better than my new Chev, but it uses more gas!

BTW, Even though the Hemi is a bigger motor than my 5.3, it's not any faster and won't pull a loaded trailer any better, at least that's the case between my new Chev and my brothers new Hemi.

Before anyone attacks me about the above, right now I own all three brands of pu's, so don't label me Chevy blind!

SR

 

[Doofy]

I bet they are looking at the puter average...

I saw a test where they BOUGHT 3 new pu's, Ram, Chev, Ford, all half tons... The puter average showed them to have nearly the same millage, UNTIL they checked the REAL mpg with paper/pen. All on the same trip, over the same roads ect...

The chev was best and very close to the puter average, the Ford came in second and also was close to the puter reading but one mpg worse than the chev.

The Ram, it was waaaaaaay worse, regardless what the puter said, in fact they tested them twice because the Ram was so far off, and it was a very distant third, the puter was waaay off. My brothers new Ram confirms this, the puter reads better than my new Chev, but it uses more gas!

BTW, Even though the Hemi is a bigger motor than my 5.3, it's not any faster and won't pull a loaded trailer any better, at least that's the case between my new Chev and my brothers new Hemi.

Before anyone attacks me about the above, right now I own all three brands of pu's, so don't label me Chevy blind!

SR

The neighbors 2016 Super Ram 2500 averaged 20mpg from Idaho back to Alaska last month. The roads were bad with snow and ice and some of that was in 4wd. The Ranger averages 20 mph in 2wd on a good day. The Jeep averages 17mpg year around. The big Dodges are more than twice the weight so, the 20 mpg looks impressive to me.

 

[oosik]

Doofy - if you believe what they say - it will be better than either my Jeep or F-150. We shall see..... Regarding technology - I have an old Samsung flip phone. One step up from analog. On a good day, out on the porch, held up high - two bars. I talk "UP" to my phone on a call.

Well - as long as I can figure this, I'll be OK. Not set off the Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System while trying to gain access with the Keyless Remote Entry System and then using the Keyless Go System. I have this vision - the dual tone horns are blaring - I'm standing at the drivers door and can't get in or stop the blaring horns. And the Keyless Remote Start System - well............

You know - I can only figure out and set all the onboard systems if I can get inside. I'll likely hurt my foot - kicking a tire. I have it - in the beginning I will leave the sun roof or rear window open - for emergency entry only. God, I hope it's still this funny when I actually have the vehicle.

Another thought - I just wonder how may remote control units there will be. I'll need a fanny pack or wear my five pocket jeans. Today, it takes four remotes just to watch TV.

 

[Doofy]

I have faith. You can do it.

 

[dodge man]

All I can say is it will be a lot simpler than you think. Most of the keyless are very easy, just grip the door handle and it unlock.

 

[oosik]

Well - I'm sure I exaggerate. The pickup will be the same as the motorcycle. With time and persistence I've figured it out. Thank goodness for the Op Manual on the cycle. It has a myriad of changes possible thru the onboard computer. I could never remember all the gyrations required for all the setting/changes on the cycle. I could spend half a day with the cycle, just making changes and never ride a mile. Even in my wildest dreams, I never thought that so much could be altered thru a computer.

 

[check]

I might even understand the vehicle by the time I get it.

Don’t count on it. I have never understood completely all of the goodies on my various trucks and SUVs even up until it was time to move on to the next vehicle. Just didn’t have the patience to figure it all out. Especially the stereo systems!

 

[oosik]

The one thing I finally figured on the cycle. All the changes are not meant for everybody. They are meant to customize the bike to each persons own liking. What a relief. It was slowly driving me bonkers. The sound system on a vehicle has never bothered me. I seldom listen to it anyhow. A good CD of Alabama or the Statler Brothers is all I need. If I want something to listen to. I'm simple, I'm easy. Modern technology is a square hole this round body is trying to squeeze into.

 

[Doofy]

The one thing I finally figured on the cycle. All the changes are not meant for everybody. They are meant to customize the bike to each persons own liking. What a relief. It was slowly driving me bonkers. The sound system on a vehicle has never bothered me. I seldom listen to it anyhow. A good CD of Alabama or the Statler Brothers is all I need. If I want something to listen to. I'm simple, I'm easy. Modern technology is a square hole this round body is trying to squeeze into.

:cool2: + a little Dr Hook when you need some silliness.