Nuclear fallout information

[Yander]

I don't believe they want to eliminate it, but reduce it. In places where "they've" checked, show most have a large amount of nitrogen just sitting above the aquifer. From over application of fertilizer. Not really surprising as most farmers i knew, got their application rates from the people that sold them the fertilizer, then add to our, "just a bit more's got to be good" and voilà.

Most farmer's use soil tests and their knowledge of fertilizer application rates, based on the soil condition, not what a salesperson tells them. Farmer's don't want to use any more fertilizer than they absolutely need to, they run a business and the higher their input costs, the lower their profits, just like every other good business.

The people you are talking about "Just a bit more people" are the homeowners who want the greener yard than the neighbor. Farmers take a bad rap for over application of fertilizer when it is really your "how do you get your yard so green" people that are to blame IMO.

If farmers were not using nitrogen, there would already be a famine. As Hay Dude mentioned, the famine will likely be brought on by nitrogen shortages and high input costs of other input costs that drive farmers out of the business.

You can only run any operation at a loss for so long and stay in business. Right now most grain farmers are still making a profit due to the grain prices staying up there. If that changes dramatically, that will not be good for farmers. Keep in mind, when things are not good for the farmer, they are not good for us. Unless you are one of those people who don't need to eat, then it doesn't matter.

 

[Fixastuff]

There would be no worries of famine if we used the agricultural land to grow human food instead of animal feed.

 

[Eagle1]

Animals = food. Now growing corn to make ethanol you can't drink is a waste.

 

[Fixastuff]

Animals = food. Now growing corn to make ethanol you can't drink is a waste.

In love eating meat but you can feed more people with the plants grown than you can with the meat produced from the plants being fed to animals. Then there are the soybeans that go to plastic production , cotton for fabrics and corn for ethanol like you mentioned.

 

[Eagle1]

I'd rather eat a steak than anything green any day all day.

 

[cqaigy2]

I'd rather eat a steak than anything green any day all day.

I'd rather eat steak than cake.

 

[MossRoad]

I usually order a vegetarian omelet with feta cheese and added sausage.

Why? Because the veggy omelet usually has bigger, better chunks of veggies.

 

[Eagle1]

Darn it guys, not planning to slaughter this years steer until next month but now I want a fresh filet cooked over an open hickory fire on my cowboy grill...

 

[Fixastuff]

I'd rather eat a steak than anything green any day all day.

I didn't say my plan would make people happy, just keep em from starving

 

[Hay Dude]

I don't believe they want to eliminate it, but reduce it. In places where "they've" checked, show most have a large amount of nitrogen just sitting above the aquifer. From over application of fertilizer. Not really surprising as most farmers i knew, got their application rates from the people that sold them the fertilizer, then add to our, "just a bit more's got to be good" and voilà.

Tell the people of Sri Lanka how that turned out.

When Sri Lanka banned synthetic fertilizers, the country imploded

Green activists have some good points. But the pursuit of a chemical-free world hurts vulnerable people the most.

reason.com

I don’t use Chemical fertilizers. I use spent mushroom compost. Maybe some poultry litter.
Gotta be free or damn cheap. I’m not spending $700/ton on chemicals and its bad news for the enviroment anyway.

 

[ovrszd]

You guys entertain the sh*t out of me. Guess that's why I come back for more.

 

[Eagle1]

Everything organic goes into the giant compost pile and that is used to feed the garden. Currently the cow manure is working to get a better pasture up on the ridge.

 

[MossRoad]

Possily caused by a massive volcanic eruption, or these freaks that want to eliminate fertilizer could be the source of the famine.

Tell the people of Sri Lanka how that turned out.

When Sri Lanka banned synthetic fertilizers, the country imploded

Green activists have some good points. But the pursuit of a chemical-free world hurts vulnerable people the most.

reason.com

I don’t use Chemical fertilizers. I use spent mushroom compost. Maybe some poultry litter.
Gotta be free or damn cheap. I’m not spending $700/ton on chemicals and its bad news for the enviroment anyway.

Lost in translation.

"Freaks that want to eliminate fertilizer"
and
"it's bad news for the environment"

What am I missing?

 

[5030]

There would be no worries of famine if we used the agricultural land to grow human food instead of animal feed.

..or cover them with solar panels...

 

[Hay Dude]

Lost in translation.

"Freaks that want to eliminate fertilizer"
and
"it's bad news for the environment"

What am I missing?

Eliminate is too drastic (should be used properly)
It IS bad for the environment in my situation. Too much runoff in the rivers and streams near my fields. I have to be more careful with fertilizers & herbicides.

 

[cqaigy2]

Eliminate is too drastic (should be used properly)
It IS bad for the environment in my situation. Too much runoff in the rivers and streams near my fields. I have to be more careful with fertilizers & herbicides.

zactly the point of my post.

 

[MossRoad]

I'd rather eat steak than cake.

If I had the choice I'd pick the cake.

However, what's usually the case is that I'll have the steak, stuffed mushrooms, loaded baked potato, steamed veggies, a bottle of beer, and a very large slice of cake with a big glass of milk.

 

[cqaigy2]

Gotta have the milk to go with the cake.

 

[MossRoad]

Gotta have the milk to go with the cake.

We were out of steak....

 

[MossRoad]