The younger workforce.

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IMO, The root behind the decline of the work ethic of today's youth started long before they reached working age...
...I like to offhandedly say that it's all the fault of music videos, MTV etc., etc...but they just culminated it beyond reproach...it really started before then...

Growing up when I did (boomer) if a kid showed any disrespect toward an adult (even a stranger) and their parents heard about it...it was bad news for the kid!...these days it just the opposite...if an adult says something to a kid he sees acting up etc...it's more likely to end up having a negative impact on the adult citizen than it is the kid that was up to no good...(and the root of this is with the parents)...
...it boils down to just plain loss of respect for others and for the value of having to work for a dollar...

Time changes everything (it's like death and taxes, unavoidable)...and I'm afraid that America may never again be what it once was...!...hey...they canceled 'Ozzie and Harriet', 'My Three Sons'...what's next...

BTW...While waxing nostalgic...I'm curious if anyone else that grew up in the same era and watched the (made for kids) westerns that were usually on before the cartoons Saturday mornings have seen any of the old episodes (on RFTV) of 'The Roy Rodgers Show', 'The Lone Ranger' etc...just compare the (positive) morals instilled in the old shows and what is popular today...

The two shows I remember not wanting to miss early Sat. AM's were 'Tarzan' (the real deal) and 'Red Ryder'...

Change is not always for the better...!

 

[MossRoad]

Around here, it seems the smart kids leave and don't come back. It doesn't help that college tuition is very high here. I've got 2 nieces currently going to school out of state. Tuition in other states can be half what they charge here.

Hmmm..... Michigan State charges double for out of state students. Indiana University charges triple for out of state. Ohio State is almost triple. Purdue is almost triple.

Unless they are changing their residency to the state they have moved to, they're going to pay out of state rates.

 

[MossRoad]

IMO, The root behind the decline of the work ethic of today's youth started long before they reached working age...
...I like to offhandedly say that it's all the fault of music videos, MTV etc., etc...but they just culminated it beyond reproach...it really started before then...

Growing up when I did (boomer) if a kid showed any disrespect toward an adult (even a stranger) and their parents heard about it...it was bad news for the kid!...these days it just the opposite...if an adult says something to a kid he sees acting up etc...it's more likely to end up having a negative impact on the adult citizen than it is the kid that was up to no good...(and the root of this is with the parents)...
...it boils down to just plain loss of respect for others and for the value of having to work for a dollar...

Time changes everything (it's like death and taxes, unavoidable)...and I'm afraid that America may never again be what it once was...!...hey...they canceled 'Ozzie and Harriet', 'My Three Sons'...what's next...

BTW...While waxing nostalgic...I'm curious if anyone else that grew up in the same era and watched the (made for kids) westerns that were usually on before the cartoons Saturday mornings have seen any of the old episodes (on RFTV) of 'The Roy Rodgers Show', 'The Lone Ranger' etc...just compare the (positive) morals instilled in the old shows and what is popular today...

The two shows I remember not wanting to miss early Sat. AM's were 'Tarzan' (the real deal) and 'Red Ryder'...

Change is not always for the better...!

As a kid, I found Roy Rogers un-watchable. Pat was too stupid. And with all those bullets flying, Roy always ended up in a fistfight. Man, he was a lousy shot! And for a long time I couldn't figure out why they rode horses if there was a jeep around? If you had a friend like that Pat, you'd not take him on any more adventures after the 3rd time the bad guys got the drop on him.

I liked The Rifleman, and F Troop (oh, man, that's bad! :laughing: ).

 

[TomSeller]

Who's to blame? Look in the mirror as a society. We have given the 20-30 somethings everything. Everyone got a ribbon for participation. No winner, all winners even if they came in last. It's entitlement at its best.
.

You got that right

And before they can drive... Take me here, take me there. Soccer games, basketball games, swimming, horseback riding...... Way too much.

 

[/pine]

As a kid, I found Roy Rogers un-watchable. Pat was too stupid. And with all those bullets flying, Roy always ended up in a fistfight. Man, he was a lousy shot! And for a long time I couldn't figure out why they rode horses if there was a jeep around? If you had a friend like that Pat, you'd not take him on any more adventures after the 3rd time the bad guys got the drop on him.

I liked The Rifleman, and F Troop (oh, man, that's bad! :laughing: ).

I only remember a jeep in the later years of the RR show...didn't really watch that one as much as others...

...my main point was about the morals depicted in the story lines of the shows that were (mostly) written for a young (formative years) demographic...and even the prime time shows backed up the same values we were being taught/exposed to at home, school, sunday school (if you couldn't play sick!), boy/girl scouts, little league etc., etc...
...back then there were no provocative music videos or electronic games etc...back then the most controversial thing (deemed by some) for a lad might be...If you were really lucky when your dad took you to the barber shop there would be a copy of Playboy magazine laying around...and your only anxiety was that two chairs would open up at the same time...!!

As for slightly later time...I always liked Larry Storch (still alive, 93) AKA "Tennessee Tuxedo" (also on 'Car 54 Where Are You') before 'F-Troop'

As for: "...all the bullets flying..."...What was funnier, if you remember the show 'Sky King' ?...I don't think there was ever a bad guy (one in most episodes) that was ever subdued with more than one karate chop to the back of the neck...(out like a light !).

Just a trivial query (you mentioned bullets)...in the opening sequence of the old, original 'Superman' show...why does superman just stand there letting bullets bounce off him...but when the bad guy runs out of ammo and throws the gun at him...superman ducks...??

 

[Eric6714]

Think about it pretty soon they will be more of there generation lazy no morals stupid think they know everything . Then guys that at least held down jobs raised family's the country is going crazy.

 

[MossRoad]

I only remember a jeep in the later years of the RR show...didn't really watch that one as much as others...

...my main point was about the morals depicted in the story lines of the shows that were (mostly) written for a young (formative years) demographic...and even the prime time shows backed up the same values we were being taught/exposed to at home, school, sunday school (if you couldn't play sick!), boy/girl scouts, little league etc., etc...
...back then there were no provocative music videos or electronic games etc...back then the most controversial thing (deemed by some) for a lad might be...If you were really lucky when your dad took you to the barber shop there would be a copy of Playboy magazine laying around...and your only anxiety was that two chairs would open up at the same time...!!

As for slightly later time...I always liked Larry Storch (still alive, 93) AKA "Tennessee Tuxedo" (also on 'Car 54 Where Are You') before 'F-Troop'

As for: "...all the bullets flying..."...What was funnier, if you remember the show 'Sky King' ?...I don't think there was ever a bad guy (one in most episodes) that was ever subdued with more than one karate chop to the back of the neck...(out like a light !).

Just a trivial query (you mentioned bullets)...in the opening sequence of the old, original 'Superman' show...why does superman just stand there letting bullets bounce off him...but when the bad guy runs out of ammo and throws the gun at him...superman ducks...??

I never noticed that Superman ducks! Too funny! Thanks. :laughing:

 

[MossRoad]

Think about it pretty soon they will be more of there generation lazy no morals stupid think they know everything . Then guys that at least held down jobs raised family's the country is going crazy.

You better re-read those sentences you just wrote....

 

[MossRoad]

I never noticed that Superman ducks! Too funny! Thanks. :laughing:

 

[TomSeller]

Think about it pretty soon they will be more of there generation lazy no morals stupid think they know everything . Then guys that at least held down jobs raised family's the country is going crazy.

Are you saying the generation that will need to support our social security payments, as we did for those older than we are, may not be reliable?