Picking up loose stumps?
Tractor & hoe...Deere 4105, Bota L3800, LS R4041, Mahindra 4025, or?
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Picking up loose stumps?
jenkinsph
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I have a huge one that is semi loose but I'm afraid to try my forks on it.
803wideglide85
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I've owned a half dozen or so compacts, currently the 4120 JD. In my humble opinion, a really handy/versatile machine. Mine doesn't have a lot of the add-ons like cruise control, etc. I've found that about the only time I'd even use that would be pulling the finish mower.
I believe the most important functions are transmission (shuttle shifter highly recommended for loader work), and auxiliary hydraulics. (Since I bought my 4120 used, I've had to add extra circuits, it's easier to have them dealer installed before the purchase)
After operation of my 4120, I am very, very pleased with the operator station, power, versatility, maneuverability, loader capacity (400cx), and durability. It can be a tricky machine to operate as it is powerful for it's weight. The high capacity of the loader requires careful ballasting, and I've had her want to climb over to a side when the bucket is unevenly loaded. It breaks traction in 2WD with r4s a bit too easily (again the ballasting), but the 4w assist and rear end lock easily take care of that. I prefer to use those only when needed as constant 4 wheel assist will smoke the front tires quickly. I have a CAT II woods 3pt hoe (with pump) that the 4120 easily handles, but as posted above, add on hoes have limitations, and tend to drag lighter tractors around (the weight issue). Stump removal can be done, but it takes time and patience. A single snatch task for a "real" backhoe.
All that said, the 4120 has been the best of all the compacts I've owned.
One other note: JD skimps on the battery ground cable, causing excessive corrosion in the battery compartment. Oversize the Ground cable, move it a better place on the block (it secures to a little tab on the frame, and tends to rust /corrode.
I wish they all had sheet metal skins, the plastic fenders etc, are cheesy and crack easily, but most all manufacturers have gone that route. Good luck!
I believe the most important functions are transmission (shuttle shifter highly recommended for loader work), and auxiliary hydraulics. (Since I bought my 4120 used, I've had to add extra circuits, it's easier to have them dealer installed before the purchase)
After operation of my 4120, I am very, very pleased with the operator station, power, versatility, maneuverability, loader capacity (400cx), and durability. It can be a tricky machine to operate as it is powerful for it's weight. The high capacity of the loader requires careful ballasting, and I've had her want to climb over to a side when the bucket is unevenly loaded. It breaks traction in 2WD with r4s a bit too easily (again the ballasting), but the 4w assist and rear end lock easily take care of that. I prefer to use those only when needed as constant 4 wheel assist will smoke the front tires quickly. I have a CAT II woods 3pt hoe (with pump) that the 4120 easily handles, but as posted above, add on hoes have limitations, and tend to drag lighter tractors around (the weight issue). Stump removal can be done, but it takes time and patience. A single snatch task for a "real" backhoe.
All that said, the 4120 has been the best of all the compacts I've owned.
One other note: JD skimps on the battery ground cable, causing excessive corrosion in the battery compartment. Oversize the Ground cable, move it a better place on the block (it secures to a little tab on the frame, and tends to rust /corrode.
I wish they all had sheet metal skins, the plastic fenders etc, are cheesy and crack easily, but most all manufacturers have gone that route. Good luck!
Green Power
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fbulldog- Did you get the tractor yet?
AWM59
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Sounds like a similar process I went through on deciding on ag tractor with BH or TLB. Thought I decided on L45 until I saw the M59. Mine is going to be $60k with the thumb, front and rear hydraulics, 16"&24" BH buckets, 3pt lift kit, bolt on bucket blade. I think 12-14% is about the best discount anyone is getting. How is yours working out for you so far?
15-18% is not uncommon on a tractor. I remember one guy got 22% but it was not a popular model. Since the M59 falls under the construction line the pricing may be different:confused3:
Still waiting on tractor. hoped it would be built by now. right at 30 days out. Family is headed out of town this weekend and would be perfect time to play...i mean work. Dealer gave me 2 day rental on mini x in deal so has bought me some time on jobs.
AWM59, 60k is right on the money. Have your's yet?
can someone tell me what size chains for proper chain and binder for tractor, loader and backhoe. I figure at least 6 sets. Any thoughts?
AWM59, 60k is right on the money. Have your's yet?
can someone tell me what size chains for proper chain and binder for tractor, loader and backhoe. I figure at least 6 sets. Any thoughts?
AWM59
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Waiting on the front and rear hydraulics to be installed. Getting a 16" bucket to go with 24" on it.
jenkinsph
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I would also use 5/16 G70 chains and binders. Lowes has a good deal on 5/16 G70 chain with the hooks on it. It comes in a bag. It looks like this but is around $35. Amazon.com: Campbell Chain T0513598 5/16-Inch by 20-Feet Grade 70 Binder Chain: Home Improvement
Depending on how you plan on securing to the trailer ratchet straps with chain ends may work.
2" Chain Extension Ratchet Straps | 2" Chain Lead Tie Down Straps
Depending on how you plan on securing to the trailer ratchet straps with chain ends may work.
2" Chain Extension Ratchet Straps | 2" Chain Lead Tie Down Straps
AWM59
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Thanks for advice. Bought binders today and will pick up some chain and straps from Lowes this weekend. Brought the dump trailer to the house today to add a toolbox and some d rings for the chains
Yeah it's going to be nice not having to shift. Have you seen the youtube video of the TractorGuy on the m59 going forward and backward, fast over and over? Back and forth. I don't know when i will ever need to drive back and forth like that but it's good to know i can
link to videoAWM59
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I have seen the back and forth video and it's hard to believe a tractor that size can move that quick.
tractor is supposed to be ready monday :drink: but most likely monday i'll be doing this :confused3:
Dealer let me use mini x on sewer job since tractor had to be ordered. Clay pipe ran another 30' or so than we originally thought. 1st pic is back of house and 2nd is side of house to street. Around 100' total. These jobs are never less than i expect
Mini was a kubota kx018-4. Around 17hp. Worked very well close to house. u can see in 2nd pick where i replaced some galvanized water line. i didnt realize a stump right next to the house was tough to dig up because a 3/4" metal line was running through it :duh:. Some dumbass ran the water line 6 inches deep...
Dealer let me use mini x on sewer job since tractor had to be ordered. Clay pipe ran another 30' or so than we originally thought. 1st pic is back of house and 2nd is side of house to street. Around 100' total. These jobs are never less than i expect
Mini was a kubota kx018-4. Around 17hp. Worked very well close to house. u can see in 2nd pick where i replaced some galvanized water line. i didnt realize a stump right next to the house was tough to dig up because a 3/4" metal line was running through it :duh:. Some dumbass ran the water line 6 inches deep...
jenkinsph
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One of the first things to learn about backhoe/excavator operation is to hold what is under neath the surface suspect. Call 811 before you dig, while they may not locate your own lines such as this one they will find the expensive to repair stuff.
You know we wan't pics of the new tractor when it arrives. Hope Monday works out for you.:thumbsup:
You know we wan't pics of the new tractor when it arrives. Hope Monday works out for you.:thumbsup:
yeah, i should have been more curious as to why the stump woudln't give up. Every other time it had been one last root i needed to cut.
Dig Test had marked the lines. One thing that worked out better than expected was it appeared the gas line ran within a foot of the sewer line all the way to the street. sewer line actually ran at angle away from gas line thank goodness.
