The younger workforce.

[ultrarunner]

I wonder if they still do today...

My first guess is everyone is so concerned about liability I and can see how they might no longer do it.

 

[NoTrespassing]

I'm not sure how to write this without it sounding bad, but this has been my experience. I've worked for the same company for almost 25 years and I've seen a lot of employees come and go. I think Americans in general have become lazy and feel entitled to more than they deserve for the amount of work they put in.

We've had employees who've immigrated from all over the world and from what I've seen, these immigrants have a much stronger work ethic. When I say this, I don't say it lightly. In fact I admit their work ethic is much stronger than mine! My advice to anyone hiring is to consider hiring an immigrant.

We have an employee from Taiwan and have had several from mainland China. We also have employees from The Philippines, India, and Turkey. I suppose one factor that makes them good employees is that in order to get to the United State these people have to be fairly driven in the first place. Out of the three employees we've had from The Philippines I can honestly say they were all or are very hard workers that showed up early every day and stayed late. They would each take all the overtime offered to them and if they couldn't get overtime they would get a second job.

We have friends from The Philippines that were nurses and dentists in their home country and in order to get a work visa, came here to be care givers in nursing homes for the disabled at minimum wage. Most take second jobs and work 60-80 hours per week sending as much money back home as they can.

That one care facility is staffed by about 80% Filipino now. My wife worked there until the day before our son was born. By the way, she never missed a day of work and was never late in almost 3 years of employment including her entire pregnancy. She was part of the "younger workforce" along with her coworkers. She could tell you many stories about her non Filipino coworkers.

Kevin

 

[bigtiller]

Our school's deceased football coach had a saying with regard to employment..... If you are on time,,,,,you are late.

 

[stan33]

'Fings Ain't Wot They Used T'Be' - 1960

 

[newbury]

I know a young man , he just turned 21 . <snip> Bought his first house at 21 , married at 22 .<snip>

?? Just turned 21, married at 22 ??

<snip>When young people interview they explain they have good computer skills and describe the job they expect, however that's my job and I'm not ready to give it up!

And they probably know they could run the business better than you.

Our school's deceased football coach had a saying with regard to employment..... If you are on time,,,,,you are late.

With the military terrain teams it was often the same. Show up at least 5 minutes early, fully prepared to do whatever. Not show up, go get coffee, chat, get a doughnut, go to the bathroom, etc.

 

[Creamer]

For me one of the real issues is the difference between what employees are paid versus what the employer has to charge for their time, i.e. the structural costs of having an employee. A car dealer charges $70+ an hour for their time but pays $17-20. The difference doesn't make the car dealer rich, it is all the costs of having an employee. Our politicians and lawyers and other do-gooders throw in lots of conditions and requirements that add costs which hurts everybody - both the employees and the consumers paying the high repair costs. they are essentially pricing the human out of the labor force as it is much cheaper to purchase tools and automate things than to hire somebody. Consequently you need a higher level employee to use those tools not just an entry level. The larger this gap gets the bigger the employers get, i.e. little places cannot know they are compliant, and the more discrepancy you get. It is a dangerous spiral because as soon as something else pops up out comes a new regulation that the employer must comply with which raises the costs more.

 

[300UGUY]

I am one of those who paid out-of-state tuition at MSU, and it was in the $40s per credit-hour. I moved
to MI from OH to study physics, and paid my own way. It took 2 years to convince the state to let me
pay in-state tuition. It was easier to get scholarship money. Course, that was 40y ago. I actually
paid off my 7% loans, too, but it took about 5 or 6y.

I shoulda gone to college in California.....

I don't think I know anyone 20-30 yo who actually paid their own way thru school.

Resident for MSU - 13,612 ( 907 per credit hour ) Non resident $36,412 !! ( $2427 per credit )

120 credits needed for graduation Resident = $108895? Non resident = $291295?

This is from MSU's own site. I can't believe it's real.

UM is even higher - 955 per credit for residents, $2892 per credit for non residents.

UM is really hard to get into. A lot of folks don't even try. If you aren't a 4.0 student, with lots of accolades, you won't even be considered.

I think I screwed up - if the tuition is for a year, rather than a semester, cut the numbers in half....

 

[300UGUY]

I know that with my nieces and nephews, their parents were much more concerned with them doing well in school, taking extra classes, sports, than them getting a job. Their parents see the workplace as much more competitive, and really, really, hope that the kids can get a scholarship of some sort. The kids whose parents don't do this are pretty well screwed. It is really competitive, and we have few winners, and lots of losers. Not the world I grew up in.

 

[MossRoad]

Resident for MSU - 13,612 ( 907 per credit hour ) Non resident $36,412 !! ( $2427 per credit )

120 credits needed for graduation Resident = $108895? Non resident = $291295?

This is from MSU's own site. I can't believe it's real.

UM is even higher - 955 per credit for residents, $2892 per credit for non residents.

UM is really hard to get into. A lot of folks don't even try. If you aren't a 4.0 student, with lots of accolades, you won't even be considered.

You got some confusion going on there.... $13K per year X 4 years is $56K, not $108K.

But you didn't include room and board!

 

[smstonypoint]

Steve