Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[SylvainG]

I went to over to my nearest Harbor Freight on Tuesday and counted 5 Teslas in 4 miles of traffic on the way there. Nearly continuous views of different Teslas, on a boulevard then urban freeway. In addition to the Teslas owned by the neighbors immediately next to each side of my home, so seven overall. I've never seen one dead anywhere.

This was in urban NorCal. Was your experience on long remote stretches of freeway?

Sometimes I joke with the neighbor next to the ranch who is appalled by all the city people buying property around there. "Today I finally got back over to the land of Teslas and Priuses!"

I won't quote what he replies.

Posted on reddit earlier today

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[California]

Posted on reddit earlier today

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Yeah. You see them everywhere, here.

Wednesday we drove the 100 miles from home to the ranch. I guess 1/4 of the time a Tesla could be seen somewhere in the traffic moving along with us. They are nearly as common as Prius.

But there are still about as many immaculate 4 door, 4-person locomotive size pickups on the road too.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

You know what's happening in Antarctica but not in your own state. Sounds like some lack of candor.

It's a question of relevance. Climate change hits me where I live. My basic info filter is, "Will I need to know this tomorrow?" I DVR the news and FF through 2/3 of every broadcast.

Antarctica is relevant because the record cold was caused by the jet stream moving closer to the pole. The same thing is happening in the Northern Hemisphere, though the geography allows high pressure to push the vortex off the pole. As a veteran prepper, I'm getting set for a record breaking cold wave. Why would I care what some arsonist did in a city hundreds of miles away? Not my monkeys, not my circus.

I'm interested in EV development because it is one of the basic infrastructure items that have to be in place to eliminate fossil fuel use. It looks like we have reached peak fossil fuel. Fracking is dying as people lose drinking water. Oil companies are having trouble keeping up with demand, while shifting plans toward renewable energy. Coal is no longer competitive, and is steadily losing market share. By comparison, why would I care about some whacko arsonist? Maybe it's important to you there in Chicago, but big cities are dying right along with fossil fuels. Give it up and move on.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I see a lot of places where the car is not even parked in the garage. There's too much junk in the garage.
Another dream of city living.

I already have an 8 gauge 50 foot 240v. extension cord. It was way cheaper than buying longer welding leads.

 

[Citydude]

It's a question of relevance. Climate change hits me where I live. My basic info filter is, "Will I need to know this tomorrow?" I DVR the news and FF through 2/3 of every broadcast.

Antarctica is relevant because the record cold was caused by the jet stream moving closer to the pole. The same thing is happening in the Northern Hemisphere, though the geography allows high pressure to push the vortex off the pole. As a veteran prepper, I'm getting set for a record breaking cold wave. Why would I care what some arsonist did in a city hundreds of miles away? Not my monkeys, not my circus.

I'm interested in EV development because it is one of the basic infrastructure items that have to be in place to eliminate fossil fuel use. It looks like we have reached peak fossil fuel. Fracking is dying as people lose drinking water. Oil companies are having trouble keeping up with demand, while shifting plans toward renewable energy. Coal is no longer competitive, and is steadily losing market share. By comparison, why would I care about some whacko arsonist? Maybe it's important to you there in Chicago, but big cities are dying right along with fossil fuels. Give it up and move on.

U.S. Energy Information Administration - EIA - Independent Statistics and Analysis

www.eia.gov

FYI

 

[MossRoad]

One might be tempting fate to drive one by your house.

Shhhhhh!

 

[MossRoad]

From my home in town, I went to over to my nearest Harbor Freight on Tuesday. I saw 5 Teslas in 4 miles of traffic on the way there. Nearly continuous views of different Teslas, on a boulevard then urban freeway. In addition to the Teslas owned by the neighbors immediately next to each side of my home, so seven overall. I've never seen one dead anywhere.

This was in urban NorCal. Was your experience on long remote stretches of freeway?

Sometimes I joke with the neighbor next to the ranch who is appalled by all the city people buying property around there. "Today I finally got back over to the land of Teslas and Priuses!"

I won't quote what he replies.

The moving ones were around the cities of Tulsa and St. Louis, as I recall. The dead one was in the middle of Ohio.

 

[Williy]

Next time anyone see's a dead tesla along side the
road you can always loan them your shovel???????????

willy

 

[California]

I've never seen a dead Tesla along the highway, but a surprising number of Mercedes Benz. My cousin bought a Mercedes and it got towed twice in the 2~3 years she owned it. She didn't have kind things to say about it.

I have a question: Do any of the modern EV's have a spare tire? Fancy cars like BMW etc? No spare onboard might be a deal breaker for me.

 

[Jstpssng]

I've never seen a dead Tesla along the highway, but a surprising number of Mercedes Benz. My cousin bought a Mercedes and it got towed twice in the 2~3 years she owned it. She didn't have kind things to say about it.

I have a question: Do any of the modern EV's have a spare tire? Fancy cars like BMW etc? No spare onboard might be a deal breaker for me.

Years ago while staying at a motel I met a woman from New Brunswick who was travelling to Quebec in her brand new BMW convertible. She trashed a tire in a construction site and had to wait 3 days to get a new one. If I spent that much money on a car and it left me stranded because it takes special tires I wouldn't own it very long... probably about one hour longer than it took to get the new tire on.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

U.S. Energy Information Administration - EIA - Independent Statistics and Analysis

www.eia.gov

FYI

The link doesn't work, but China is shutting down factories because of power shortages, Europe is going to run out of fuel this winter, and the US will barely squeak by if we don't have any emergencies. Our diesel/fuel oil reserves are off 20% heading into fall. The era of cheap carbon is drawing to a close. Escalating fossil fuel prices will accelerate the change. When gasoline hits $6/gallon, people are going to be lining up to buy EVs.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I’d buy a Tesla long before a bmw or Mercedes, but none of those 3 will happen any time soon.

 

[Grumpycat]

I see a lot of places where the car is not even parked in the garage. There's too much junk in the garage.
Another dream of city living.

Tesla's Wall Connector is outdoor rated. They now offer one with a shorter umbilical but IIRC the standard is 25'. Mine reaches either of 2 spots in my double garage or out the door to the Tesla backed up to the garage door. There are 4 places I can park the Tesla for which my WC reaches.

 

[Grumpycat]

I've never seen a dead Tesla along the highway, but a surprising number of Mercedes Benz. My cousin bought a Mercedes and it got towed twice in the 2~3 years she owned it. She didn't have kind things to say about it.

I have a question: Do any of the modern EV's have a spare tire? Fancy cars like BMW etc? No spare onboard might be a deal breaker for me.

My 2013 Tesla Model S does (did) not. Nor did my 2009 Mercedes-Benz ML320. When "dual motor" was added to the Model S line the frunk shrunk. No room up front for a spare tire. Mine predates dual motor (4 wheel AWD).

I currently carry one of the original tires in the frunk without a rim, jack, or lug wrench. Would buy a rim but don't really care enough to shop hard enough to find one at the price I'm willing to pay. Is 245/45-19, not a size Walmart usually stocks. Any shop could mount it, I have the tools myself at home. Am also practiced at installing tire plugs on my tubeless motorcycle tires. And changing tubeless motorcycle tires (nearly 60 on motorcycles the past 5 years, 4 on my toy hauler travel trailer, 4 on my Prius). Carry 12V inflator and plug kit.

News flash: motorcycles don't carry spares either.

 

[Grumpycat]

Years ago while staying at a motel I met a woman from New Brunswick who was travelling to Quebec in her brand new BMW convertible. She trashed a tire in a construction site and had to wait 3 days to get a new one. If I spent that much money on a car and it left me stranded because it takes special tires I wouldn't own it very long... probably about one hour longer than it took to get the new tire on.

Yeah, that is why I carry a 40,000 mile tire no-rim in my Tesla.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

In today's shareholders meeting Elon Musk said about 40 years for the gas cars to be off the road. It will be 20 years before they stopped making gas and then another 20 years to wear out those. We're talking about 2061 which will be my 110th birthday party time.

 

[Jstpssng]

My 2013 Tesla Model S does (did) not. Nor did my 2009 Mercedes-Benz ML320. When "dual motor" was added to the Model S line the frunk shrunk. No room up front for a spare tire. Mine predates dual motor (4 wheel AWD).

I currently carry one of the original tires in the frunk without a rim, jack, or lug wrench. Would buy a rim but don't really care enough to shop hard enough to find one at the price I'm willing to pay. Is 245/45-19, not a size Walmart usually stocks. Any shop could mount it, I have the tools myself at home. Am also practiced at installing tire plugs on my tubeless motorcycle tires. And changing tubeless motorcycle tires (nearly 60 on motorcycles the past 5 years, 4 on my toy hauler travel trailer, 4 on my Prius). Carry 12V inflator and plug kit.

News flash: motorcycles don't carry spares either.

Plugging motorcycle tires? THAT's a big mistake.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Plugging motorcycle tires? THAT's a big mistake.

0ur Leaf has no spare naturally but it does come with an air compressor and a bottle of green goop.

 

[txdon]

Tesla is moving their headquarters from California to Austin Texas.

 

[Jstpssng]

0ur Leaf has no spare naturally but it does come with an air compressor and a bottle of green goop.

That goes against everything that I ever learned... a Harley rider actually got on my case about that very thing. The funny thing about Harley guys; they may ride and act different than we'd like, but they take care of their machines.