4707

[Turbys_1700]

If it works like mine it is an electric over hydraulic valve. When you press the button on your joystick it electronically switches the hydraulic flow from your port block located at the bottom of your tractor to the lines feeding your front couplers. The switch should toggle between open and close on your grapple, 4n1 bucket, etc. If this explanation is incorrect someone will perhaps explain it better than I attempted to.

 

[daugen]

thanks, it looks like an electric motor or solenoid.

fun day getting the tractor dirty, fields turned out to be not too wet.
1.3gph at 1.2mph at 1850 rpm. Dialed down a little for engine break in. About 510 pto rpm.
Very quiet comfortable ride, neighbor came over, I let him drive and I took the buddy seat, now that is sure no pleasure
seat, made for little rear ends. Pretty sky through the roof glass.
Thoroughly enjoyed myself, got the hang of the powershuttle in first five minutes, all good.
Steering seemed a little less notchy with more air in fronts btw.

 

[daugen]

DL, you got your snow plow on? This is when I'm glad I'm on this end of the State.
I have a pretty long paved driveway and no way I'm pushing anything on that which will scratch it,
having hand resealed it all by myself this summer. We get in the one to six inch range, once a year.
Hard to justify equipment for that.

I grew up in the country in PA and this 4707 with a plow up front would be great fun to drive.
There is not one snow plow in this town. Only a State plow comes through four days later.
And the ditches collect the speeders. I stay home. Too many years as a volunteer fireman out in this stuff up North.
And I guarantee you the steel steering wheel on an JD B is mighty cold on winter mornings, growing up plowing our long farm driveway so my Father could get out to go to work.
So now in sunny warm coastal NC I'm glad we are only going to get rain here.

Five years ago Philadelphia PA had 6 feet of snow total. I left the next year.
Heater works fine in my tractor, though temperature knob is very stiff, which is worrisome, one in Kubota was butter smooth, only
one I have to compare against. Feels like I'm turning against something with a surprising amount of friction in it.

 

[daugen]

didn't need to but had some fun polishing the rust off the discs today. 4707 acted like hardly anything was back there.

 

[daugen]

Dealer just told me a basic color rear camera would cost 325 and they would install it for free for me.
Farm grade but not high end. Sold.

Got some play time in the field last week in between rains. My rain gauge says 81 inches for last year but it was always lower than
the manual gauge, so I'm guessing 90 inches of rain last year. 4wd is a must...
Ground is sandy with clay and in the lowest spot, wettest spot, tractor started to slow down in 2wd so I promptly flipped the lever to neutral, pressed the 4wd button, and then flipped the lever forward. Off I went with zero drama and no disturbed earth. Those big tires and a fair amount of weight and it definitely has grip. My tires only have mud about half way up the tires, so it wasn't slop out there. But none of the real farmers were out there, no reason, I was just having some fun. Now the rototiller goes on the back for Feb 1 ground prep. Local ag agent impressed upon me that early day.

It handles like a small elephant. Even with the stops adjusted. Those big tires in the front are really neat but
they have clearance issues it seems. Just a few more back and forths at times at the end of the row.

What I found very interesting was going ever so slowly down the line of brand new John Deeres this morning at the dealer, big dealer, where I bought my diesel garden tractor, and after dropping it off, was comparing models and frame sizes.
Unless there is a much larger 5R frame model, the 4707 was closest to a 6 series JD, not a 5.
That raised my eyebrows. Mostly looking at frame and rear axle size. Really did compare with a 6.
Much less horsepower and sophistication likely, no Star Trek power arms.

Nice looking tractors those Deeres. Someone has to make the most expensive, glad it's Americans.
And glad there are professional farmers who can afford it and most benefit from those 6, 7, 8 and 9's.
to quote Janis Joplin, it ain't me babe...

 

[Bigpuddie]

Dealer just told me a basic color rear camera would cost 325 and they would install it for free for me.
Farm grade but not high end. Sold.

Got some play time in the field last week in between rains. My rain gauge says 81 inches for last year but it was always lower than
the manual gauge, so I'm guessing 90 inches of rain last year. 4wd is a must...
Ground is sandy with clay and in the lowest spot, wettest spot, tractor started to slow down in 2wd so I promptly flipped the lever to neutral, pressed the 4wd button, and then flipped the lever forward. Off I went with zero drama and no disturbed earth. Those big tires and a fair amount of weight and it definitely has grip. My tires only have mud about half way up the tires, so it wasn't slop out there. But none of the real farmers were out there, no reason, I was just having some fun. Now the rototiller goes on the back for Feb 1 ground prep. Local ag agent impressed upon me that early day.

It handles like a small elephant. Even with the stops adjusted. Those big tires in the front are really neat but
they have clearance issues it seems. Just a few more back and forths at times at the end of the row.

What I found very interesting was going ever so slowly down the line of brand new John Deeres this morning at the dealer, big dealer, where I bought my diesel garden tractor, and after dropping it off, was comparing models and frame sizes.
Unless there is a much larger 5R frame model, the 4707 was closest to a 6 series JD, not a 5.
That raised my eyebrows. Mostly looking at frame and rear axle size. Really did compare with a 6.
Much less horsepower and sophistication likely, no Star Trek power arms.

Nice looking tractors those Deeres. Someone has to make the most expensive, glad it's Americans.
And glad there are professional farmers who can afford it and most benefit from those 6, 7, 8 and 9's.
to quote Janis Joplin, it ain't me babe...

The new JD 5R series are sweet. They start at $85k and go to $115k. I love my Massy for $45k.

As for a camera system, I have about $180 in mine with 2 cameras and a Ram mounting system. Very happy with it.View attachment 585599

 

[LouNY]

Dealer just told me a basic color rear camera would cost 325 and they would install it for free for me.
Farm grade but not high end. Sold.

Got some play time in the field last week in between rains. My rain gauge says 81 inches for last year but it was always lower than
the manual gauge, so I'm guessing 90 inches of rain last year. 4wd is a must...
Ground is sandy with clay and in the lowest spot, wettest spot, tractor started to slow down in 2wd so I promptly flipped the lever to neutral, pressed the 4wd button, and then flipped the lever forward. Off I went with zero drama and no disturbed earth. Those big tires and a fair amount of weight and it definitely has grip. My tires only have mud about half way up the tires, so it wasn't slop out there. But none of the real farmers were out there, no reason, I was just having some fun. Now the rototiller goes on the back for Feb 1 ground prep. Local ag agent impressed upon me that early day.

It handles like a small elephant. Even with the stops adjusted. Those big tires in the front are really neat but
they have clearance issues it seems. Just a few more back and forths at times at the end of the row.

What I found very interesting was going ever so slowly down the line of brand new John Deeres this morning at the dealer, big dealer, where I bought my diesel garden tractor, and after dropping it off, was comparing models and frame sizes.
Unless there is a much larger 5R frame model, the 4707 was closest to a 6 series JD, not a 5.
That raised my eyebrows. Mostly looking at frame and rear axle size. Really did compare with a 6.
Much less horsepower and sophistication likely, no Star Trek power arms.

Nice looking tractors those Deeres. Someone has to make the most expensive, glad it's Americans.
And glad there are professional farmers who can afford it and most benefit from those 6, 7, 8 and 9's.
to quote Janis Joplin, it ain't me babe...

I don't know about your Massey but all of our tractors from 70 HP+ the front axle engagement is wet clutch packs
that we can and do engage on the go when needed no stopping necessary. I would expect that yours is also.
As soon as we start seeing slip in the rears we will engage the fronts without stopping.

 

[Bigpuddie]

On the 4707, you can push the 4 wheel drive button and set it on auto engagement as well as full engagement on the fly

 

[daugen]

well that's good to know, thanks.

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

Keep the reviews coming. I'm interested in how this thing works.

 

[daugen]

The new JD 5R series are sweet. They start at $85k and go to $115k. I love my Massy for $45k.

As for a camera system, I have about $180 in mine with 2 cameras and a Ram mounting system. Very happy with it.View attachment 585599View attachment 585600View attachment 585601View attachment 585602

I've wanted one of those front cameras for a long time. Can you take a pic of the screen view while you have your bucket on?
I'd like to see what you can see. Any vibration in the cameras?
I worried about installing a camera on the FEL arms vs the tractor body because when you bang the bucket to
clean out the dirt, just wondering how happy the camera will be about that

 

[Bigpuddie]

I've wanted one of those front cameras for a long time. Can you take a pic of the screen view while you have your bucket on?
I'd like to see what you can see. Any vibration in the cameras?
I worried about installing a camera on the FEL arms vs the tractor body because when you bang the bucket to
clean out the dirt, just wondering how happy the camera will be about that

The camera is very steady. Its mounted on a very sturdy magnetic mount with rubber to protect paint. Since it's a magnet, you can move it around for whatever you need to see, plus the camera can be adjusted on the magnet too. I use it for hooking up buckets, grapple or forks. Picture is very clear. Be sure to get a high resolution CCD camera, not a CMOS.

 

[LouNY]

The new JD 5R series are sweet. They start at $85k and go to $115k. I love my Massy for $45k.

As for a camera system, I have about $180 in mine with 2 cameras and a Ram mounting system. Very happy with it.View attachment 585599View attachment 585600View attachment 585601View attachment 585602

Nice camera and monitor setup, the picture looks good.
Would you mind sharing what brand it is?
Thanks
Lou

 

[Bigpuddie]

Nice camera and monitor setup, the picture looks good.
Would you mind sharing what brand it is?
Thanks
Lou

Here ya go. This is what I have, then I bought an additional camera and cable.

Backup Camera Monitor Kit Van, RV, Upgraded 175º Wide View Wired Infrared HD Small Rear View Cam 7 inch Adjustable Monitor Truck, Trailer, Bus, Oversize Vehicles https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079BNRHSM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_U.GlCbN3AFZS9

 

[woolyAcres]

@Bigpuddie-
Thanks for the link. I've got the same issue with my RX7320- can't see the attitude of the thing attached to my loader (bale spear, forks, bucket is a bit easier because it's wider). I'd like to put a camera out there. Is your camera attached to the loader arms or to the tractor? If loader, what happens when you remove the loader? Is there a connector in the cable allowing you to disconnect the camera?

 

[Bigpuddie]

@Bigpuddie-
Thanks for the link. I've got the same issue with my RX7320- can't see the attitude of the thing attached to my loader (bale spear, forks, bucket is a bit easier because it's wider). I'd like to put a camera out there. Is your camera attached to the loader arms or to the tractor? If loader, what happens when you remove the loader? Is there a connector in the cable allowing you to disconnect the camera?

Yes...I bought a few different lengths of cable and have a disconnect there. Works great

 

[daugen]

I wish there was a way to get the angle up high enough so one could see the leading edge of the bucket.
But that camera would sure make hooking up easier.

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

OK, I decided to go to my local MF dealer and inquire about the 4707. I checked it over (as much as I could in the rain) and just by looking at it, you'd couldn't tell it was made in China. In many cases, "Made in China" has a particular look, a crudish look. This tractor doesn't have that.

Interior:
The interior isn't anywhere near what I'd call lavish, in fact, it's closer to "spartan" than anything. There's a functional cup holder, a very shallow cup holder that doesn't look like it would hold anything securely, and a few other molded areas that look like they could hold something, but I'm not sure what. There's a glove box type of enclosure on the left side of the seat that's neat, but that's the extent of storage spaces. There's nothing for holding a cell phone anywhere. Overall, very limited. The seating arrangement is what appears to be focus on the interior. It's an air seat that swivels and adjusts in every direction. There are armrests too. The steering column is adjustable and is telescopic, too. Operator comfort seems to be what MF was shooting for with this interior.

Exterior:
The tires are excellent, there are four remotes, and has the 3pt hitch buttons on the fender. As previously mentioned, there is no DEF and no DPF. That's huge.

The price I got from the dealer for a new 4707 with wheel weights, loader, 78" heavy-duty bucket with reversible cutting edge, and buddy seat was $51,950.00 before tax (if applicable).

I'd like to think Massey Ferguson has a complete, firm grip on quality control with the 4700 Global Series and that these tractors don't have "Made in China" issues that will eventually surface. If this is truly "Massey Ferguson Quality" and not Chinese quality, then it's clear to me that this is the start of a new trend. I'm not sure I like that trend (because China), but if it's all that, how can you argue against it?

 

[Bigpuddie]

OK, I decided to go to my local MF dealer and inquire about the 4707. I checked it over (as much as I could in the rain) and just by looking at it, you'd couldn't tell it was made in China. In many cases, "Made in China" has a particular look, a crudish look. This tractor doesn't have that.

Interior:
The interior isn't anywhere near what I'd call lavish, in fact, it's closer to "spartan" than anything. There's a functional cup holder, a very shallow cup holder that doesn't look like it would hold anything securely, and a few other molded areas that look like they could hold something, but I'm not sure what. There's a glove box type of enclosure on the left side of the seat that's neat, but that's the extent of storage spaces. There's nothing for holding a cell phone anywhere. Overall, very limited. The seating arrangement is what appears to be focus on the interior. It's an air seat that swivels and adjusts in every direction. There are armrests too. The steering column is adjustable and is telescopic, too. Operator comfort seems to be what MF was shooting for with this interior.

Exterior:
The tires are excellent, there are four remotes, and has the 3pt hitch buttons on the fender. As previously mentioned, there is no DEF and no DPF. That's huge.

The price I got from the dealer for a new 4707 with wheel weights, loader, 78" heavy-duty bucket with reversible cutting edge, and buddy seat was $51,950.00 before tax (if applicable).

I'd like to think Massey Ferguson has a complete, firm grip on quality control with the 4700 Global Series and that these tractors don't have "Made in China" issues that will eventually surface. If this is truly "Massey Ferguson Quality" and not Chinese quality, then it's clear to me that this is the start of a new trend. I'm not sure I like that trend (because China), but if it's all that, how can you argue against it?

The fit and finish on my 4707 is top notch. Seat comfort, second to none...even with adjustable armrests. As for your quoted price, you can do better than that. Just for giggles ( I see you are in CT), call Bruno's in Cabot, Arkansas and get a phone quote and work off of that. I bought mine from MM Weaver in Leola, Pa. My price was $45,000 including a 936x self leveling loader, wheel weights, Visio roof, 3rd function remote, and front fenders. Now, the 2019 models will have a price increase due to tariff. If you are quoting a 2018, you should be able to do $45-48k

 

[daugen]

I believe there might be a cost issue based on what size rear tire the tractor is delivered with. 34's on the rear of mine are clearly oversized for 70hp tractor, believe I read someone else had theirs delivered with 30's instead. I think because they were putting this size tire on the other higher hp versions, all basically identical tractors except for engine hp and emissions control and likely cheaper to just stock one size tire.
If I get this thing stuck, I'm going to have to work awfully hard at it. My tractor had been sitting at another dealer for time unknown, perhaps latest deliveries have the 30 inch rear radials.