Pennsylvania New Home Build Thread. An attempt.

[Rustyiron]

Re: Pennsylvania New Home Build Thread. An attem

Some tape there would have been good. If you ask them to "un-zip" the first course from the starter (pretty hard to do) they could then tape the top of the starter to the wall for positive drainage. Another very easy option is to un-zip the 2nd course from the first and tape the top of the first course to the wall. This will shed any water behind the siding into the bottom "lock" of the 2nd course with the water can weep out of the weep holes at he bottom of the siding panel.


I can't really see the bottom side of (2nd pic) what's going on there for adding my 2 cents.

 

[MGH PA]

Re: Pennsylvania New Home Build Thread. An attem

Some tape there would have been good. If you ask them to "un-zip" the first course from the starter (pretty hard to do) they could then tape the top of the starter to the wall for positive drainage. Another very easy option is to un-zip the 2nd course from the first and tape the top of the first course to the wall. This will shed any water behind the siding into the bottom "lock" of the 2nd course with the water can weep out of the weep holes at he bottom of the siding panel.


I can't really see the bottom side of (2nd pic) what's going on there for adding my 2 cents.

Good suggestions. I was going to asking them to do something similar, but hadn't thought about doing it on the second course vs. the first course.

As for what's going under the banding board over the ICF...the same exact vinyl will be going there which is why we used the banding board. To provide a visual break.

 

[MGH PA]

Any other suggestions regarding the exposed sill below the banding board?

 

[EddieWalker]

Wish I had something more helpful to offer, but in my experience, when a step was skipped, and it's something as important as keeping water out of a house, the best solution is to undo what was done and do it again the right way. The sooner you do this, the sooner you can move forward on the build.

 

[MGH PA]

Wish I had something more helpful to offer, but in my experience, when a step was skipped, and it's something as important as keeping water out of a house, the best solution is to undo what was done and do it again the right way. The sooner you do this, the sooner you can move forward on the build.

So I'm not wrong in wanting that done? My builder doesn't seem to think it was necessary, so I'm in for another fight I suppose.

What do you propose for the bottom of the board that's exposed just above the ICF?

 

[747driver]

No you are not wrong in asking this error to be fixed properly. I am with Eddie. Anytime you have a transition then that seam or gap has to be flashed to allow water to continue to drain downwards. Bad as it will sound...that band board needs to come off along with the starter siding board. You only have one shot at getting this right for the long term. Don't blame the builder for saying its ok, as he knows it will be a pain to redo but should have done it right to begin with.

 

[ovrszd]

I wouldn't worry about the builder. He'll get paid to redo this.

 

[dlctcg]

No you are not wrong in asking this error to be fixed properly. I am with Eddie. Anytime you have a transition then that seam or gap has to be flashed to allow water to continue to drain downwards. Bad as it will sound...that band board needs to come off along with the starter siding board. You only have one shot at getting this right for the long term. Don't blame the builder for saying its ok, as he knows it will be a pain to redo but should have done it right to begin with.

I agree with both 747driver & Eddie... get this fixed & fixed correctly. Water infiltration is a nightmare...

"Bad as it will sound...that band board needs to come off along with the starter siding board." Couldn't agree more!!!! Are there work around's... Yes... but you are paying for a New Build... Not repairing a mistake on a completed house you purchased...

This would Not be acceptable to me: "Another very easy option is to un-zip the 2nd course from the first and tape the top of the first course to the wall." Vinyl siding (when properly installed) is hung loose to allow movement during seasonal / temperature changes & do to even sun expansion. It should not be nailed tightly anywhere nor should it be mounted via flashing tape to the structure.

IMHO... Correct fix from what I can see in the pictures: Unzip second course from the first, remove the first course, started, and freeze board (banding board). Then properly flash the bottom where the freeze board meets the foundation/sill/wall transition & the top of the freeze board prior to the starter strip. (this is due to the weep holes in the siding panels that will drain on top of the freeze board) If properly bent up this could be done as part of the freeze board wrap either with one or two pieces of of coil stock.

If you need to do a work around fix (builder is not going to correct this... there are way.. but would prefer to see him come good on this for you. my .02

 

[buckeyefarmer]

If I understand correctly, you’re worried about water that gets in behind the siding then getting behind some flashing that’s behind the siding?

 

[MGH PA]

If I understand correctly, youæ±*e worried about water that gets in behind the siding then getting behind some flashing thatç—´ behind the siding?

Yes...