Starting BX24 in boathouse (avoid fumes)

mswlogo · Dec 1, 2007

How fast can you folks mount or dismount the Backhoe? Sure would be nice to take my time and not pass out while doing it.

Very simple to drill a hole in the floor and run 3 feet of hose and do anything I want with the tractor any time in or out, doing service etc. Bird lungs and my lungs will be happy. Don't understand the big deal.

I have a ladder suspended from the ceiling and they tend to like to poop while on it. There is a straight line of poop under it.

LBrown59 · Dec 1, 2007

mswlogo said:
1*How fast can you folks mount or dismount the Backhoe? Sure would be nice to take my time and not pass out while doing it.

2*Very simple to drill a hole in the floor and run 3 feet of hose and do anything I want with the tractor any time in or out, doing service etc. Bird lungs and my lungs will be happy. Don't understand the big deal.

I have a ladder suspended from the ceiling and they tend to like to poop while on it. There is a straight line of poop under it.

1*Don't know -> never tried it.

2*I've never needed an exhaust hose when working on cars in a garage so why would I need one for a tractor ??
== L B ==

mswlogo · Dec 1, 2007

LBrown59 said:
1*Don't know -> never tried it.

2*I've never needed an exhaust hose when working on cars in a garage so why would I need one for a tractor ??
== L B ==

2) Maybe that explains all the useless responses.

rdsaustintx · Dec 2, 2007

Tom_H said:
Other people were having a polite discussion. You came along and basically told everyone involved in this thread that their conversation was meaningless. Does it really surprise you that someone dared respond to you by telling you that if you don't want to be part of a constructive conversation, staying out of it is a better choice? Do you really think name calling and using eye rolling faces in a public forum is going to make anyone take you more seriously? What if this were not cyberspace? If you were actually standing in front of a dozen other men who were having this discussion, would you speak up and say these same things aloud straight to their faces, or do you only do so because you are safely anonymous somewhere in cyberspace?

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OK Mary, write another wall of text nagging a guy that wrote two short sentences. At least my post was on topic.

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It ain't a problem.

Berniep · Dec 2, 2007

LBrown59 said:
2*I've never needed an exhaust hose when working on cars in a garage so why would I need one for a tractor ??
== L B ==

Get a carbon monoxide detector and see how fast the levels rise even in an open sided shed (3walls) if you don't change your mind then, the carbon monoxide levels will do it for you eventually. It's poison and it's cumulative.

Harry c · Dec 2, 2007

mswlogo said:
How fast can you folks mount or dismount the Backhoe? Sure would be nice to take my time and not pass out while doing it.

Actually, I can usually mount my BX24 BH in about 2 minutes. Of that time only about 1 minute is with the tractor running. The FEL is now about 1 1/2 minutes. Most of the time is hooking up the hoses.

Renob · Dec 2, 2007

LBrown59 said:
2*I've never needed an exhaust hose when working on cars in a garage so why would I need one for a tractor ??
== L B ==

Another piece to the puzzle!

Grrrr · Dec 2, 2007

This thread has gone way off the point. The is a problem because mswlogo doesn't want to scare the birds off and running the tractor in there will make the birds go. If you birds were as picky as the birds we have around here then just the noise would send them on there way

However, you definitely don't need to warm the tractor up for five minutes before you move it. You don't even do that for tractors that have massively more complex engines than your BX.

I think that you will just be able to get on the tractor, start it up and drive it straight out. Then leave it to warm up. Do you leave your car for five minutes before you move it?

I can see that you are going to have a problem though when you need to leave it running for longer periods of time like when you connect up the BH. This is when you may need the exhaust extensions.

This is the sort of thing that I thought of when thinking about fume extractors.

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I think that you could build something like this pretty easily.

But I think that this would be an absolute PITA to use and I know I would just end up not bothering to connect it up

You must have more patience than me.

LBrown59 · Dec 2, 2007

Grrrr said:
However, you definitely don't need to warm the tractor up for five minutes before you move it. .

I think that you will just be able to get on the tractor, start it up and drive it straight out. Then leave it to warm up. Do you leave your car for five minutes before you move it?

I can see that you are going to have a problem though when you need to leave it running for longer periods of time like when you connect up the BH.

Not a problem for me for the BH, Fel. Mower,front blade or rear tiller.
They are all always on all on the tractors redy to go anytime.

rdsaustintx · Dec 2, 2007

Berniep said:
Get a carbon monoxide detector and see how fast the levels rise even in an open sided shed (3walls) if you don't change your mind then, the carbon monoxide levels will do it for you eventually. It's poison and it's cumulative.

Love your posts Bernie, but YOU are the one in the silly hat.

Despite my comments (sorry, but his swallows are just a nuisance), I do care about IAQ and have a NightHawk CO detector in my shop, but not my barn. When I run the tractor in the shop (with two overhead doors open) it will show 100-200ppm in 15 minutes. Eight hours of that could make you stupid for a while, but an occasional half hour won't hurt much at all. Maybe the same uptake as a good Cohiba (yum). Undiluted tabacco smoke has 1000's of ppm.

The air in some cities is 400ppm. Parking garages and tunnels can run 600ppm.

800-1000ppm can kill you in a few hours, esp. if you are already sick.

3/4 of CO deaths are intentional suicide. Most of the accidental deaths are people sleeping.

No idea what concentration or uptake would kill a bird. I'm sure it is much less, but just don't care.

RDnT

mswlogo · Dec 2, 2007

It's not even summer yet and just fiddling with the thumb, fumes got pretty nasty in less than a minute. And I wasn't about to work on it outside, it was in the teens with 42 mph wind. When it's 10F or so out I'd prefer give the tractor a few minutes warm up before moving it. Folks seem to be doing more more **** things with their tractors than I. I may want to run it once and a while over winter even if I don't plan on taking it out.

I don't have a wide open garage door on it. I also have to drive out fairly slowly. It's just big enough to fit the tractor through. It's fairly enclosed space.

And how can you call these little guys a nuisance.

rdsaustintx · Dec 2, 2007

mswlogo said:
And how can you call these little guys a nuisance.

Touché dude. They're very cute.

Here in central BubbaLand we have swallows, but more problems with these guys. Not quite as cute:

PS: My kids are pretty cute too, but I don't let 'em crap in my barn.

mboulais · Dec 2, 2007

Any animal not bred for captivity does not belong in my barn. Too much money tied up in the things I keep in the barn and too important for the health of my family. Bird and bat droppings are nasty stuff.

I don't see anything about the effects being cumatalive. Each exposure is a stand alone event.

The Effects of Carbon Monoxide

Berniep · Dec 3, 2007

rdsaustintx said:
Love your posts Bernie, but YOU are the one in the silly hat.
RDnT

Hey the hat's not half as silly as the guy under it

I love barn swallows, they eat lots of flying bugs (my least favorite type of bug) So I can see wanting to keep them around.
Doesn't take much diesel fume exposure to make me want out. Too much time working behind an idling jet engine on the flight line I guess. So I can see wanting to keep the fumes down.
As far as the exposure being cumulative, I may have made a mistake in trusting what the papers put out. I read that in a story about some kids riding in a pickup camper shell on a trip.

Also a lot of signs have been going up at customers docks stating that diesel fumes have been linked to cancer and not to idle the trucks please.
I haven't read any research myself but it's probably not as bad as smoking.
But does anyone really want to increase their chance of cancer?

Wow all this just because someone wanted to vent their exhaust out of a boathouse

Mswlogo
Have you found any hose yet?

mswlogo · Dec 3, 2007

Been working on the thumb, now that that's done I can go shopping for the hose. The aluminum dryer hose suggestion sounded good.

Your dead on the little guys eating all the bugs all day and the bats eat them at night.

LBrown59 · Dec 9, 2007

mswlogo said:
Been working on the thumb, now that that's done I can go shopping for the hose. The aluminum dryer hose suggestion sounded good.

Your dead on the little guys eating all the bugs all day and the bats eat them at night.

got it solved about starting your bx23 in the boat house yet?