What have you done with/to your GC Series 2300, 2400, 1700 Tractor TODAY

[GeneV]

over last 3 days winds been gusting to 30mph and temps today topped out 41.7 so...no hydro stuff done today.
this, MY tractor, only thing left to do. eng oil, fuel filter,grease....all done. just hydro stuff front and rear.
tomorrow still gonna be 40-45 deg but low winds. it will get done then.

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one tractor on lawn a lot better than 4 on lawn.

I spy with my little eye...a craftsman dump cart. I got one of them.

 

[GeneV]

Yo D, I hated the pivoting back door on that cart, so I changed it...welded on some channel so that the door just slides off completely:

 

[Dmacleo]

Yo D, I hated the pivoting back door on that cart, so I changed it...welded on some channel so that the door just slides off completely:


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don't have pivot door on this, its slide up and out door. much like you made.
was the largest cart sold in this style back in 2006 or so, its pretty big. smaller carts used the swing door.

 

[Dmacleo]

hydro done on my GC2400. accidentally put about 1/2 qt too much in it. should be ok, runs fine.

 

[hube2]

hydro done on my GC2400. accidentally put about 1/2 qt too much in it. should be ok, runs fine.

Mine's been slightly overfull by about the same mount for almost 2 years with no ill effects. Was at the bottom of the glass and added, does not take much to go from there to overfull. I can see the level when extend all the FEL cylinders.

 

[Dmacleo]

Mine's been slightly overfull by about the same mount for almost 2 years with no ill effects. Was at the bottom of the glass and added, does not take much to go from there to overfull. I can see the level when extend all the FEL cylinders.

yup, plus after I remove bucket a few times level will drop a touch.

 

[ray66v]

The full level for the hydraulic fluid on a GC, is not critical.

 

[Dmacleo]

The full level for the hydraulic fluid on a GC, is not critical.

if you overfill too much you can create a foaming issue. that ain't good.
1/2 qt....yeah not an issue
last time I serviced MY unit (no garage, level surface hard to find so I actually use levels 2ft and 4ft on tractor normally) I never noticed fill glass had been covered and I ended up adding extra gallon.
disconnect one loader line, connect hose from coupling to bucket. pull loader lever. it comes out pretty fast LOL

 

[Dmacleo]

someone buying company 2010 cam superline 6CAM18FT tilt trailer. used GC to move it so truck can hook on fast.
moved the 7x14 enclosed trailer with owners personal items in it to better location. moved his GC1723TLB to better location.
7x14 twin cylinder CAM dump also sold but will be week before picked up, GC will move that too.
his 2019 dodge 2500HD cummins sitting on charger right now, sitting for months messes it up and the preheat takes a LOT of juice.
once he signs docs I take over payments of this.
not gonna get into details but if your bail conditions say don't get near anyone under 18....DON"T ******* DO IT!!!
cause you will lose everything.

 

[Dmacleo]

twitched some very small poplars (4" diameter) out for neighbor for firewood as well as carried the 16" cut length stuff up to firepit for them. gotta cure for few months still.
oh yeah I also cut them as neighbors saw died.
4 buckets of 16" poplar carried up 300 feet to pit, average 30 logs per bucket.
once it dries will be good.
I hauled from woodline, neigbor cut (using my saw as his died) his kids loaded stuff into my bucket. easy peasy

 

[ray66v]

if you overfill too much you can create a foaming issue. that ain't good.
1/2 qt....yeah not an issue
last time I serviced MY unit (no garage, level surface hard to find so I actually use levels 2ft and 4ft on tractor normally) I never noticed fill glass had been covered and I ended up adding extra gallon.
disconnect one loader line, connect hose from coupling to bucket. pull loader lever. it comes out pretty fast LOL

You are not the first one to do that. We have had countless people over fill their GC's, no one has had an issue.

I am not advocating being careless, under, or over filling. But, I can assure you, a quart or two either way isn't a big problem.

It's not a critical level. If it was, they would have put a dip stick on it.

 

[Dmacleo]

You are not the first one to do that. We have had countless people over fill their GC's, no one has had an issue.

I am not advocating being careless, under, or over filling. But, I can assure you, a quart or two either way isn't a big problem.

It's not a critical level. If it was, they would have put a dip stick on it.

yup, quart not an issue.
however when its overfilled by a gallon....well the rubicon was crossed and 2 years ago I stupidly paddled across it.

 

[GeneV]

You can't "overfill" that thing, only underfill.

Let's say you fill it to the top of that fill tube. When you're running the tractor, all that could happen is that the fluid will pop off the plug and spill out some, no biggie.

 

[Dmacleo]

You can't "overfill" that thing, only underfill.

Let's say you fill it to the top of that fill tube. When you're running the tractor, all that could happen is that the fluid will pop off the plug and spill out some, no biggie.

gc2400 gallon overfull fluid foaming and I could not move in high range.
dropped it back to 1/2 gallon over and could move when hot.
heated it it all up drove to neighbor with garage with level pad, drained another .75 qts out.
tractor fine for well over 200 hrs.
yeah I am a bit behind on hydro on my OWN GC tractor while the other GC/MF tractors around me are good.
BUT if you say you cannot overfill a GC I will call you out.
first GC I dealt with was a 2300 in 2004.
in november 2004 the GC2300 was a new item to dealers.
dealer over filled. by 1.3 gallons
one friend bought one and was pissed.
new release to dealers so I dealt with massey themselves.
customer (my friend) pissed off.
I drained a gallon out (so still .3 overfull) and tractor worked fine for may years. over many owners. all that knew me.in 2010 this tractor had 845 hrs on it.
I bought a GC series in Nov 2020 but I've been dealing with GC series since 2004.

anywhoo......I've been involved with GC series since April 2004. yup that date sounds odd. cause the actual release was many months later then the test release.

so....long story short....YES YOU CAN OVERFILL A HYDRO TRANSMISSION SETUP.
ANYONE that tells you otherwise is mistaken.

EDIT: in 1984 manual (bolens) specs wrong and overfilled a 14hp Bolens by 1.1 gallons.
when cold everything worked.
when hot you were screwed, mower deck would not lift, tiller would not lift, snow blower would not lift, mower deck would not work at all.
all these things were NON pto and hydro driven, and when hot would not work.
spent many hours on phone with bolens, identified the misprint in service manual, corrected problem and my grandfather tractor started working,
1984....dam I feel old.
was....eerie...dealing with bolens engineers while I was only 16 at that time. whatever.

Had similar calls that year with Case (before fully swallowed by Ingersoll) on their garden tractors.
damn I feel old.

 

[GeneV]

I never ever overfilled mine so I can't really speak from experience. From the description of how the system works, it doesn't seem like you could overfill it. But I'll defer to your experience.

 

[ray66v]

EDIT: in 1984 manual (bolens) specs wrong and overfilled a 14hp Bolens by 1.1 gallons.

How did you overfill a 2 gallon system by 1.1 gallons??

 

[PJRAM]

Tractor Supply Stores had 15% off for Veterans Day. My son bought me the 6" Countyline auger for my post hole digger to complete my set. I now have the 6", 9" and the 12" augers. Now I just have to buy the fence posts and start digging holes. We are putting in a 250 foot long split rail fence as a decorative border between me and my neighbor's property line. Mainly to remind our dogs where the invisible fence line is.

 

[Dmacleo]

How did you overfill a 2 gallon system by 1.1 gallons??

it wasn't hard.
maybe thats the biggest point.
it comes down to this. if it can be screwed up....I'm your guy.
bolens manual said drain and add 1 to 1.2 gallons.
I followed manual.
manual changed shortly after.

real issue was the refill levels were driven off the TOTAL levels.

case/ingersoll soon followed.....

edit: keep in mind this was 1984 time frame and bolens/case dealer were the same up here then.
but manuals were changed for hydro service on both of them then.

 

[PJRAM]

I hooked up the Tractor Supply CountyLine Post Hole Digger today to see if the 4 FT. long augers are too long for a GC1723 3 point hitch. The 4 FT. long augers barely clear the ground with the 3 point in the highest position. I moved the lift pin on the main beam of the post hole digger to the last hole which allows for the highest lift position. Driving forward the auger barely clears the ground or drags a little. In reverse you have to use the attached handle to angle the auger up off the ground or it drags in the dirt. So it does work, but my honest suggestion is to perhaps use 3 ft. long augers. I did try digging one hole with the 6 " auger, but didn't bury it all the way for fear of getting it stuck in the ground. I need to practice a little more with it first. I ran the PTO at idle speed or slightly above idle speed. I uploaded a short video also.

 

[GeneV]

PJ, I'm no expert in using these things, but watching your vid, I was thinking maybe driving backwards a little bit as the auger is going down into the hole straightens it out somewhat.