Do we need a warm garage....

[ovrszd]

I bucked some Bay Laurel that was good size and toppled near the creek... had to move it so I cut and split it.

Very disappointed... really not worth the effort to burn but I had to give it a try...

Lots of Coast Oak and with some pine on the land so no more Laurel for me!

Sounds like my experience with Chinese Elm. I still burn it if it needs cut or dies. Just gotta season it carefully.

 

[Oldpath05]

The man asked for a hint, so the man gets a hint!

what is a pole barn at DuckDuckGo

Danke, "A pole barn is a structure erected by setting poles in the ground to support a roof. It can be that simple" <<<<I ask for a hint and got a hint, the hint I got is what I thought, the thought that I was thinking is what I thought. Pole barn= 4 poles and a roof, easy to heat in the summer, easy to cool in the winter, all a tractor needs to sleep in............

 

[Oldpath05]

I burn every tree I cut, regardless of type. Some are better, some are worse. Waste not, want not.

Me too

 

[Oldpath05]

I call it a chimney pipe success, fire started a little slow, but after a few minutes, started a little hotter, then I cut some sawmill slabs up that I've had bundled up in 2x2x8.5-ish, they've been sitting for 3 years, loaded up the stove with them and things really took off, none too soon either, in the teen's today. Now I'm glad I didn't go that high with single wall stove pipe.

 

[ovrszd]

That would have freaked me out!!!!

If you have one of those laser heat sensor guns get a reading on that if it happens again!!!

 

[ultrarunner]

What kind of temps do you guys shoot for?

The little LOPI pedestal stove has a magnetic thermometer with an optimal mid range and a red range indicating too hot....

What would be the problem with being too hot?

It's not like it would ever get hot enough to liquify steel...

My sister-in-law says I make the best fires and everyone likes to come home to a warm family room after a long day at the Christmas Tree lot where it is wet and cold...

Last year I stacked all of their wood on an elevated rack and covered the top... I put all the dry kindling size stuff with bark chips in several old plastic trash cans with lids and it is extremely dry after a summer of 100 and low humidity...

The only other thing I do is once the fire is going is throttle back the air control to the point just enough to support a flame...

and I do clean the glass every time I make a fire... they had it so black it was hard to see the fire.

I grew up with a masonry fireplace and getting it nice and hot would warm up the bricks and the heat would radiate for hours but it took time to get it hot... AND a lot of oak... maybe 4 to 5 times what the little LOPI stove takes...

 

[ovrszd]

What kind of temps do you guys shoot for?

The little LOPI pedestal stove has a magnetic thermometer with an optimal mid range and a red range indicating too hot....

What would be the problem with being too hot?

It's not like it would ever get hot enough to liquify steel...

My sister-in-law says I make the best fires and everyone likes to come home to a warm family room after a long day at the Christmas Tree lot where it is wet and cold...

Last year I stacked all of their wood on an elevated rack and covered the top... I put all the dry kindling size stuff with bark chips in several old plastic trash cans with lids and it is extremely dry after a summer of 100 and low humidity...

The only other thing I do is once the fire is going is throttle back the air control to the point just enough to support a flame...

and I do clean the glass every time I make a fire... they had it so black it was hard to see the fire.

I grew up with a masonry fireplace and getting it nice and hot would warm up the bricks and the heat would radiate for hours but it took time to get it hot... AND a lot of oak... maybe 4 to 5 times what the little LOPI stove takes...

I was gonna give you a quick response on the chimney temp. But my battery is dead on my laser. I'll get back to you on that.

My concern to a glowing "tin" chimney flue would be that if it in fact does get hot enough to sag/droop and come apart you will immediately have a disasterous result.

I use a homemade heater reclaimer just above my stove and then tin chimney for 5' to an insulated flue thru the wall. I've had my stove so hot you couldn't get within 5-6 ft of it but my chimney has never glowed. That would freak me out....... But I might be overly paranoid after losing a shop to fire 7 years ago.

 

[ultrarunner]

After the Oakland warehouse tragedy fire awareness is again in the spotlight.

One of the old tool and die makers I apprenticed under told me a story of his childhood...

They heated with wood and at an early age it was his job to make sure the stove was fueled and fire going.

They lived near railroad tracks and one day he picked up a bucket full of coal found walking the tracks and decided to use the coal in the wood stove.

His father came home from work and asked it he had used all the wood as the home was unusually warm in the dead of winter... and was told no...

The family sat for supper and it started to get uncomfortably hot... stove started to glow and the horizontal section of stovepipe started to sag... his father grabbed a piece of wood to prop it up and it started smoking and yelled for his son to grab a shovel...

Still not sure what happened buy I guess coal burns much hotter than wood?

 

[ovrszd]

After the Oakland warehouse tragedy fire awareness is again in the spotlight.

One of the old tool and die makers I apprenticed under told me a story of his childhood...

They heated with wood and at an early age it was his job to make sure the stove was fueled and fire going.

They lived near railroad tracks and one day he picked up a bucket full of coal found walking the tracks and decided to use the coal in the wood stove.

His father came home from work and asked it he had used all the wood as the home was unusually warm in the dead of winter... and was told no...

The family sat for supper and it started to get uncomfortably hot... stove started to glow and the horizontal section of stovepipe started to sag... his father grabbed a piece of wood to prop it up and it started smoking and yelled for his son to grab a shovel...

Still not sure what happened buy I guess coal burns much hotter than wood?

Definitely!!!!!

 

[murphy1244]

I run my wood burner around low of 300 to a high of 600 degrees. It gets up to 85 in here and that's a little hot for me.

 

[Ford850]

I try to keep my flue 250 - 475. Any higher and you're wasting heat up the flue, or could start a chimney fire. Any cooler than the 250 and you start building creosote. The worst scenario is cool fires building creosote, then an over burn like the glowing flue in the picture which will ignite the creosote build up.

 

[Oldpath05]

That would have freaked me out!!!!

If you have one of those laser heat sensor guns get a reading on that if it happens again!!!

Maybe someone here has a laser sensor's and can put on the picture and get a reading. When I shut the bottom door it cooled back down.
But isn't SS stove pipe supposed to take more heat atleast I hope so. I notice the double wall chimney pipe got hot enough that I couldn't put my hand on it, thought it was only supposed to just get warm to touch, that part makes me nervous, cause I lost my shop 3 years ago to fire and that had SS stove pipe inside the chimney block, maybe SS stove pipe is no good.

 

[ovrszd]

I try to keep my flue 250 - 475. Any higher and you're wasting heat up the flue, or could start a chimney fire. Any cooler than the 250 and you start building creosote. The worst scenario is cool fires building creosote, then an over burn like the glowing flue in the picture which will ignite the creosote build up.

Very well stated!!!!

I used to try to keep my wood stove going all night in my shop. That meant stocking it with wood and shutting it down tight. I had to clean my chimney several times each Winter. Well,,,,, I got older and more lazy. Now I let burn out in the evening and depend on the propane furnace to keep things warm til morning. I quit doing that "just before bedtime" stocking of the stove. Now I clean my chimney at the beginning of the season and it's good all Winter. I was building 90% of that creosote/soot with that last burn of the night because of having it shut down so tight.

 

[ovrszd]

Maybe someone here has a laser sensor's and can put on the picture and get a reading. When I shut the bottom door it cooled back down.
But isn't SS stove pipe supposed to take more heat atleast I hope so. I notice the double wall chimney pipe got hot enough that I couldn't put my hand on it, thought it was only supposed to just get warm to touch, that part makes me nervous, cause I lost my shop 3 years ago to fire and that had SS stove pipe inside the chimney block, maybe SS stove pipe is no good.

I too lost a shop 7 years ago to fire. Although mine wasn't from a wood stove. I just think when you are heating metal to the point of glowing you are at risk. Regardless of what type of metal. I'll get a battery for my sensor tomorrow and run some tests. I'm NOT going to get my chimney to the glowing point though!!!!

 

[dragoneggs]

I too lost a shop 7 years ago to fire. Although mine wasn't from a wood stove. I just think when you are heating metal to the point of glowing you are at risk. Regardless of what type of metal. I'll get a battery for my sensor tomorrow and run some tests. I'm NOT going to get my chimney to the glowing point though!!!!

Richard, how did you lose your shop?

 

[jack707]

Yup why would someone want to work in the cold?.

 

[tjkubota93]

We have a LOPI stove with single wall pipe going into a square masonry chimney with clay liner.

I use a chimguard magnetic thermometer and keep it in the orange.

Always burn oak and hickory that's been split sitting under a canvas tarp for 5 or 6 months.

Clean everything every other year and don't get a whole lot. Most build up is in the tin pipe.

 

[TemporaryKubotaOwnerMark]

I bucked some Bay Laurel that was good size and toppled near the creek... had to move it so I cut and split it.

Very disappointed... really not worth the effort to burn but I had to give it a try...

I've heard the same about willow. Haven't tried it myself.

Where I live, good wood is so easy to come by, for free, that I can afford to be a bit of a wood snob, so I probably will never find out for myself.

 

[ovrszd]

Richard, how did you lose your shop?

Best we could tell a vehicle fire middle of the night. Or an electrical fire of some kind.

 

[4570Man]

I have a high efficiency stove with no exposed flue so I can't measure it, but I've measured the doors over 900 pushing 1000 degrees. My Grandpa has the more traditional wood stove. He got it hot enough to droop the top and its 3/8 thick steel. He was burning kiln dried hickory rejected axe handles.