Grid-tied solar

Egon · May 21, 2015

MossRoad said:
So bright you'll have to wear shades!

I was thinking of when it started expanding!

dave1949 · May 21, 2015

Redneck in training said:
Often the off or accompanied natural gas is is pumped at great expense (several billion USD) back underground to boost oil flow. I was working in UAE last year on commissioning of a gas plant project and learned that GASCO has a plant extracting CO2 and using that to boost oil flow instead of off gas. They told me that it is cost effective because it cost less than the market value of the gas.
GE, Hyundai and others have a research of CO2 extraction and storage in progress. CO2 is a byproduct of production of ammonia and it combined with ammonia can be turned into urea crystals (fertilizer).

Interesting. I imagine several useful things could be done with the CO2 with the right financial incentives, subsidies or penalties.

It's not easy to convince people to spend more now to avoid much greater future costs after they are dead. The odd thing is once market forces and ingenuity are brought to bear on the problem it becomes a non-issue. People resist change and they certainly don't like to be told how and when to change.

dave1949 · May 21, 2015

Egon said:
I was thinking of when it started expanding!

No worries, you will be living underground by then. :laughing:

Egon · May 21, 2015

dave1949 said:
No worries, you will be living underground by then. :laughing:

Hopefully my atoms will be disseminated round the world.

dave1949 · May 21, 2015

Egon said:
Hopefully my atoms will be disseminated round the world.

I see that as inevitable given enough time and at that point, time is all you have really. :laughing: Egon across the eons, subducted by tectonic plate movement later to be blown into the sky as a cloud of volcanic ash. Or, if your final resting place happens to be the impact point of a meteorite, you won't see it coming.

If you are looking for faster results, there is this to consider. You could literally be pushing up daisies in short order.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/science/a-project-to-turn-corpses-into-compost.html?_r=0

MossRoad · May 21, 2015

Egon said:
I was thinking of when it started expanding!

Then we'll need asbestos undies!

KiwiBro · May 21, 2015

Will need to substitute US figures into the assumptions, but here's a fairly good review out of UK detailing why the Tesla Powerwall just doesn't stack up financially for an average consumer:
Charging ahead ? what impact will Tesla?s Powerwall have in the UK? | Birmingham Energy Institute

That said, it's still a great transitional product, supported by an army of wonderful early adopters, made by a penetrating company paving the way for future options.

MossRoad · May 21, 2015

dave1949 said:
Interesting. I imagine several useful things could be done with the CO2 with the right financial incentives, subsidies or penalties.

It's not easy to convince people to spend more now to avoid much greater future costs after they are dead. The odd thing is once market forces and ingenuity are brought to bear on the problem it becomes a non-issue. People resist change and they certainly don't like to be told how and when to change.

There used to be an ethanol plant here. One of the byproducts is CO2. Air Gas company built a plant right next door and bought the CO2 for soda pop, industrial gas, etc...