Wrong tool for the job

[flingwing1969]

Using pretty much ANY SIZE FEL for such a task is the wrong tool.

Maybe a little clue in the "loader" part of the description.

I thought mine said Front end tree pusher. Hmmm. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[flingwing1969]

 

[Doofy]

I thought mine said Front end tree pusher. Hmmm. Thanks for the clarification.

Really have to slap myself on occasion to remind me that a compact tractor is not a bulldozer either. Also, 1969 was a Great Year!

 

[Phillip w]

update: the old allis came thru. The stump was a tough little burger. Ended up coming out in pieces. Also, broke a pin on the loader. Either that alot of push force or that is a chinese pin. Tractor backend came up a couple times and that is unusual for it. I've never upset one yet, but dad has upset 2 and grandpa upset an old case tractor once. The little dont worry The darned old stump doesn't even burn worth a too.

 

[Phillip w]

update: the old allis came thru. The stump was a tough little burger. Ended up coming out in pieces. Also, broke a pin on the loader. Either that alot of push force or that is a chinese pin. Tractor backend came up a couple times and that is unusual for it. I've never upset one yet, but dad has upset 2 and grandpa upset an old case tractor once. The little dont worry The darned old stump doesn't even burn worth a too.

That ended up a mess. Hit the wrong button. Here is some Pics:

 

[fried1765]

Tractor FELs against 14" stumps are a joke. Tractor backhoes aren't much better. A real backhoe and preferably an excavator is leaps and bounds better.

I disagree.
My old Ford 3400 TLB (only 10' hoe) would get that 14' stump out with ease.
I have done 24" trees.
Break the roots off on 2 or 3 sides with the hoe.
Then push as high as possible, and over goes the tree.
Finish rip out with the hoe & thumb. Pick up tree (cut in big pieces) with loader forks.
Haul the tree away to the brush pile.
Curl the bucket, dropping the forks, and get a loader bucket of dirt to fill the hole.
If I were doing 100 trees...certainly an excavator (with a thumb),.... but for a single tree, a suitably sized TLB is far more versatile.

 

[flusher]

Had a tree i was tired of and decided to push it with the tractor thinking it would up root and i would not have a stump to mow around. Well, as you can see in the photoView attachment 547366View attachment 547367View attachment 547368 it broke about even with the ground. I just told a guy on here that one of these little tractors would dig out a stump. I was totally off base with that idea. I jumped on mf because of ease and operational convenience. The little massey didn't do to good. Not enough hp, push power, hydraulics, and weight. It is not just my little massey, i think any of these little tractors would have trouble. Little tractors are not the right tool for stump removal.

The right way to do that job is chain saw first, then shovel/maul/axe, and THEN the tractor. Like this:



That's my 1964 MF135 diesel doing the final step.

Good luck

 

[Navvet]

Just a little digging and a quick push and some more oak firewood ......

 

[KB7722]

What model is your Allis? Use to have a 180 and a 200 w/ fel. I learned how to operate and grew up on those tractors. Tractors today are a breeze after operating those titans.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Two of the guys that assisted me on our explosive weekend, were graduates from a community college blasting course. But there was a joke that at that time (80s) anyone could buy explosives if they seemed legit to the vendor, but you needed a license for fireworks.

And back then, rural farm houses had mostly (cheap to replace) single pane windows and tin roofs. What's a little fly rock here and there?

Learned a lot that weekend. Have 8mm footage. The best was the large wooden console TV which all but disappeared from the earth,

 

[Phillip w]

What model is your Allis? Use to have a 180 and a 200 w/ fel. I learned how to operate and grew up on those tractors. Tractors today are a breeze after operating those titans.

My allis is a mid 1970's 185 with a koyker #5 loader. I agree with easy of operation on the new stuff. I also agree with a gear transmission and the way thing are set up and designed, the allis is an odd ball. However, that old allis is beefy, rugged and and pretty tough when you got get down and dirty. I can push a tree with it faster than a guy can start a chain saw. Ive up rooted alot of trees. That particular tree broke and i didn't want a stump. The stump was a lot more trouble than i figured. I probably won't try any more stumps. Pushing trees Doesn't require alot if hp, just alot of weght and traction. This new stuff to me seems like you got to have the engine screaming to get anything out of them and then they are to light and spin. Alot of traction issues. Not only will that old allis push, she will pull like a freight train. That is the first pin I've ever busted pulling or pushing.

 

[Doofy]

Two of the guys that assisted me on our explosive weekend, were graduates from a community college blasting course. But there was a joke that at that time (80s) anyone could buy explosives if they seemed legit to the vendor, but you needed a license for fireworks.

And back then, rural farm houses had mostly (cheap to replace) single pane windows and tin roofs. What's a little fly rock here and there?

Learned a lot that weekend. Have 8mm footage. The best was the large wooden console TV which all but disappeared from the earth,

Back in the late 60s, the neighbor up the road used dynamite to purge his septic crib. Had a little to much vodka and used a little to much dynamite and blew that Sh*t to smithereens and beyond. His three red headed daughters spent several days cleaning the poop off the house. They took his dynamite away.

 

[Texasmark]

You could use your chain saw and cut it as close to the ground as is practical and then get a DR brand, stump grinder. They are pestering me with fliers for stuff they have on sale. All good products. I have a half a dozen DR products.

Then you would have it when needed, you could use your MF for the purpose designed, and save a ton on money on not buying a larger tractor just because you want to remove some stumps.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Simple. Give out the recipe and end up on the "no fly" list.

 

[Doofy]

Simple. Give out the recipe and end up on the "no fly" list.

Hahahaha! That sounds about right. If you are lonesome that would be a good way to get some company.

 

[Michael Aos]

I removed a couple smaller (10"?) dead trees like that with my BX2370.

I was really surprised.

I had been talking to a rental place to line up a mini excavator. They asked if I had even TRIED pushing on them, so I figured I'd give it a shot.

Turned out I didn't need to rent the mini-excavator.

In retrospect, I probably should have just pulled them down with my pickup truck -- it's easily twice the weight of the BX.

 

[Phillip w]

Heres the cleanup and finished product. I think I'm going to get out of the stump removal business for a while.